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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 205 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I know there’s a ton of skepticism about Meta entering the fediverse — it’s completely understandable,” Cottle says. “I do want to kind of make a plea that I think everyone on the team has really good intentions. We really want to be a good member of the community and give people the ability to experience what the fediverse is.”

Your intentions mean exactly nothing when you're being paid by Zuckerberg.

It also doesn't actually matter what you intend, because the problem isn't just what the platform can do, it's about Meta being in this space and trying to stake a claim in it. We came here to escape you. Go the fuck away.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? I don't care what their intentions are, if they continue to house hate groups, their "intentions" count for exactly nothing

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[–] rambaroo 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't get these people. They knowingly chose to work for Meta after everything that company's done. You don't get to pretend you're the good guy anymore. They're by far the most evil big tech company on the planet and that says a fucking lot when you're up against MS, Oracle, Google and Apple

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At a very desperate time in my life I worked for Comcast. Everytime something bad happens to me now I know I deserve it and that it is karma coming back to me.

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[–] UnaSolaEstrellaLibre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the engineering team has good intentions, but Zuck and his Fucks surely don't.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I don't believe for a second that any of them have good intentions.

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 12 points 1 year ago

I'm not a fan of Meta and I don't want to join Threads. But there may be some people over there I would like to follow. At least on Mastodon, we can block any instance we choose to manually. I hate when instances make the decision for me.

Defederation should be a last resort when there are so many options here for people to tailor their own feeds.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Defederate.

They can have a corporate silo. They can use an open standard. But they cannot do anything good for the fediverse. The best thing for the fediverse is to let them exist as a walled garden (and we can put up the wall).

There are about 10 million users on the free fediverse. That number has grown steadily and sustainably. There are 160 million threads users. They were instantaneously leveraged onto the platform by a billion dollar corporation (possibly in violation of antitrust laws).

If we federate, Threads won't become a part of the fediverse; threads will become the fediverse.

EEE

[–] spez_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm deleting my Lemmy account because it's just

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

hey guys have you seen Candlejack he was right

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Ill move to server that has defederated meta completely

[–] VolcanoWonderpants@lemmy.today 43 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You can find servers based on Threads defederation through this site. Since you don't want anything to do with Threads, I suggest filtering by 'blocked' and 'Fedipact' I'm not sure what the difference is between the two is though, so I'd appreciate if someone would explain.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] VolcanoWonderpants@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a really good site too, though I suggest using fedipact.veganism.social if you're specifically interested in which instances are defederated from Threads. Some instances have hidden blocklists and won't show if they have defederated Threads if you search through defed.xyz.

For example: You can only see that retro.pizza and masto.ai have hidden blocklists if you look through defed.xyz. However, if you look on fedipact.veganism.social, you can see that retro.pizza has joined the Fedipact against Threads, while masto.ai is fully federated with them.

[–] starman@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure what the difference is between the two is though, so I'd appreciate if someone would explain.

Looks like to be part of the fedipact you have to sign this: https://fedipact.online/

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Fuck letting the Zuckin billionaire into this party! Build your own shit communities with your own shitty user base

[–] rotmulaaginskyrim@programming.dev 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't mind the threads integration much actually.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I don't understand the issue.

People want the fediverse to grow, so FB entering it is a good thing no? Otherwise realistically the fediverse will likely stagnate and always just take up a tiny bit of space.

The more people involved the better. Sometimes I feel this group just wants to shoot themselves in the foot.

[–] Zink@pawb.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I DON'T want the fediverse to grow if that growth is full of extremists, hate groups, porn bots, etc.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

But the fediverse already has that lol. I've had arguments here with extremists many times.

You won't just magically cure it by stopping FB from federating. Putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes doesn't make it go away.

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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy already is full of extremists and hate groups. Perhaps you mean you don't want hate groups you don't agree with?

[–] Zink@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even if this is somehow true (no clue who you federated with, man), we're talking a community abt 80 times the size of the fediverse whose owner does not care and will not do anything other than dump its worst upon us.

Even if they aren't planning EEE, they might just be trying to rid of the fediverse by filling it with junk.

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[–] rambaroo 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The issue is that Meta's intention is to extinguish the fediverse, not to add to it. I can't believe people are still falling for this tactic.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was kind of hoping the hysteria would be over by now. Walled gardens are a bad thing, I'm pleased when holes are poked in them.

[–] narp@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

"Hysteria", that's one way to belittle people.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah if threads integration means that i could interact with my friends threads posts with mastodon account i don't mind it. it's not like they are gonna use mastodon. maybe there might be a chance that people on threads might visit mastodon once they are fed up with spams on threads.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The chance is higher that threads will add some features mastodon doesn't support and then people will leave mastodon for threads.

embrace extend extinguish

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[–] ThePancake@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll miss my cozy little Lemmy...

The upsides are apparent for the platform, but there's no denying that change will be inevitable for all of us, whether some instances choose to defederate or not.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (11 children)

What your Lemmy feed looks like is 90% up to you. Subscribe to things that you find interesting and block what you don't want to see.

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

With about a thousand new daily sign ups to mastodon it feels like it is going back to its rapid degrowth that it has been on before the Twitter debacle.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Fuck Zuckerberg!!

[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Doesn't Lemmy let users block instances? So no issue here.

The problem seems to be with Mastodon (and possibly others like Pixelfed, Bookwyrm, etc), which I think is controlled at instance level. Fortunately, the admin of the Mastodon instance I'm on has defederated Threads.

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