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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel is actually torturing and killing children and the Republican Party still supports them.

[–] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well they were already born so clearly this is gOd'S pLaN.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

.... and the majority of the world just shrugs their collective shoulders ....

Meh, waddaya gonna do?

At this point, our collective indifference to these atrocities makes us complicit.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Calling Israel terrorists is actually an insult to the meaning of terrorism

[–] automaton@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

This is what pure evil looks like. Pure genocide.

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Isreal keeps this up I wouldn't be surprised if the neo-nazis start gaining traction again.

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

As if they aren't already

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is going to be unpopular, but how do we know they're non-combatants? Just because they're unarmed at the moment the video is filmed, doesn't make the non-combatants, AFAIK.

We're basing this on the opinion of a a biased reporter, who wached the video and described what they saw?

Disclaimer, required around here:
Fuck Israeli Government.
Fuck Hamas.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you've ever seen a Hamas video they sneak through the opnenings in the sides of buildings. They certainly don't walk around in the open like this without worries.

The burden of evidence lies on israel, and just like that time they drone striked an ambulance, no evidence will be presented.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can't deduce shit from a video like this, especially when it's just posted on "X" by a strongly biased source.

I'll wait for a credible source to report on this, twitter bullshit can stay in twitter.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's an interesting way to deny video evidence.

[–] Mastengwe@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For someone who is constantly getting their shit removed and banned for misinformation, you sure seem confident that this video is evidence of anything.

Unless you were there, or capable of identifying the people in this video- you can only admit that you know absolutely NOTHING about it.

Anything less is misinformation and/or opinion and should be dismissed as such.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Lmao, you have no idea what those words mean.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If Israel brought out video evidence of these specific guys doing stuff before then I'd agree. But with their track record the burden is definitely on them to prove these guys were combatants they just happened to catch unaware.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure the Israeli government has a lot of their hands right now to comment on every twitter video posted by a person who's location is set to Gaza.

If this is actually a war crime, I hope the culprits are punished accordingly.

Other than that, I'm going to treat this as yet another twitter video, without context, cut to fit an agenda, with some blood-boiling comment.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They're welcome to send that proof to the NYT.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, there is no context for this and heavy framing in the article. I agree with both of your Disclamers, but this is just propaganda.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The context is the HD video footage of the IDF drone striking obvious unarmed civilians.

Where's the context showing these people were enemy combatants deserving a death sentence by drone strike? Do you always take the "guilty until proven innocent" line, or is this a race thing?

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is how you turn a conversation into a pile of shit.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (18 children)

By pointing to evidence to back my claim and asking for consistent standards and something vaguely resembling the rule of law?

How do you propose we make the conversation better?

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That's how easy we could finish putin's war. Nope, instead some random people who are probably innocent or at least not doing anything other than talking and walking, instead they get the several million gifts.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genocide is the goal. How do you negotiate peace between 2 sides that 100 % believe the other side should be eradicated

[–] ZeroTHM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One is an ally, and the other isn't. It should be clear how to resolve it.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For those that haven't seen the video yet:

NSFL(Death + Gore): Video mirror

Bombings at 1:00, 1:50 and 2:15

Slow mo compilation showing the bombs with red circles: NSFL ( Death + Gore): https://imgur.com/a/e1XWdfY

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The cynic in me thinks the IDF would not use $3000 in munitions to kill four random guys. Bullets are dirt cheap fpv bomb drones are expensive. From that I can only assume someone really wanted to kill one of them for some reason that we can not determine from the limited footage. I'm not saying war crimes including intentional starvation and indiscriminate fire are not happening but I don't think this is one of them this looks far too coordinated and planned to be a random act of aggression.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This isn't the first or even new example, it's been happening for years. Even to the point where Hamas and other militant groups claimed that the IDF was poor at infantry fighting which is why they overly rely on vehicles and standoff weapons.

I think it's just that because Israel is doing a large scale offensive, the fog of "they were Hamas" doesn't fly anymore so its much more reportable in the media, along with an increase of examples.

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