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This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I have the opposite. I have never a reason to turn off Bluetooth, but always want to connect of disconnect devices. this is so much better than long pressing.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah they built this UI on the assumption that people didn't turn off their BT generally. This is an improvement for me but I really don't see why they can't make it an option for people.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not an assumption. They obviously have telemetry that shows the vast majority of people never turn Bluetooth or WiFi off.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...or maybe the people who turn off Bluetooth also tend to disable/block telemetry.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ummm... this also happened for WiFi as far as I can tell...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah I don't turn that off generally either but you're right the wifi panel has been like this for a bit and now it's consistent.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My wife's car is extremely aggressive. The second she turns it on, it steals my Bluetooth connection. I could be mowing my lawn, listening to music on my phone, then suddenly hear nothing, and it's because my wife got in her car and was suddenly blasted with my tunes.

I tell my phone to forget her car's Bluetooth connection, but then I'm constantly harassed by pop-ups on my phone every minute saying her car wants to pair with my phone. I can't get it to stop pinging me. It sees a Bluetooth device in range and then spams it, trying to connect.

So yes, I like to keep my Bluetooth off until I want to use it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell the car to forget your phone?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

That's a temporary fix, because oop may drive that car at times as well. I have the exact same problem

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have a dig through the cars Bluetooth settings and see if you can delete the pairing from that end.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've done that, but it still pings every Bluetooth connection it sees, whether it recognizes it or not.

Her car had some class-action lawsuit recently because its integrated satellite radio service was constantly pinging for a connection, whether you had the service or not. If the car wasn't driven in a few days, the battery would be completely drained. And you couldn't jump it yourself; it had to be towed to a shop so they could use some special machine to jump and charge it.

That issue has been settled, but now its Bluetooth is basically doing the same thing. Fortunately only while the car is on, but still.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I turn it off daily. I have 2 phones and I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work. I can see where you're coming from though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work

I'm confused, do you shuttle the same speaker between work and home or is work a separate speaker? If it's a separate speaker why don't you just delete it's pairing from your personal phone?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Supermarkets and malls etc, use Bluetooth beacons to track, and profile you. I'm always turning mine off, when in those kind of places.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Same bullshit they did when they combined WiFi and Cell into one toggle and called it "internet".

Like DO YOU PEOPLE JUST NOT UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS MENU YOU YOURSELVES CREATED!?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hated that too, but buried in the'edit' list I still found separate toggles for WiFi and data (on Lineage OS)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's a major improvement. Nobody turns off Bluetooth.

It's now easier to check or disconnect devices.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Location and Bluetooth are constantly off for me, my phone is lucky if it isn't in airplane mode.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Yes we do. I have Bluetooth off 95% of the time, unless I'm using headphones

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't want to go conspiracy theory, but in my opinion it feels like a dark pattern to increase the time people have Bluetooth on. I believe they did the same thing with success for Wi-Fi. If I recall correctly, even when you are not connected to a device, Google can estimate your location based on what Wi-Fi networks you are in proximity to and something to varying degrees might work for Bluetooth as well which is why they also roll the feature over to the Bluetooth toggle

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is definitely it. This article is from 2019, so it has probably evolved a lot since then.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/14/opinion/bluetooth-wireless-tracking-privacy.html

In addition to the profits from earphones, this is probably another reason for the removal of the headphone jack.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wut. Why would they bother when your cellular connection is constantly pinging all towers to literally triangulate your location? Why do something much more complicated to get data they already have?

The real answer is they are a multi billion dollar company with telemetry. Obviously, the vast majority of people never turn off WiFi or Bluetooth. Most people want quick access to connect to a WiFi network or Bluetooth device, not to toggle either off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I believe that Wi-Fi points are more accurate than towers especially when they're sharing the information with indoor retailers

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like the way Nothing OS does it. Tapping the icon toggles Bluetooth on/off, and tapping the text/rest of the button opens the popup.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fuck.... now i understand why the hell sometimes it opens me that annoying window ... It works the same on miui

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

But the wifi button still pisses me off. I want my separate LTE data toggle back.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way it works right now on my phone is you tap it to turn it on and off and then you long hold to open the setting.

I'm going to be peeved if that goes away in favor of OPs process...

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just grumbling about this today. It's one of those little changes that might help someone, but interrupts a flow that worked well for me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Same. I was sure it's me doing something wrong.
But I don't even like those larger icons. I want the smaller circles like before.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can we talk about how space inefficient the UI is? It takes up the entire screen to essentially show 6 buttons. And I bet like the Internet toggle that it moves the buttons around when it detects new networks

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer this. I've been annoyed by having to go to the settings every time I wanted to swap device I want to connect to. I rarely turn off BT anyways.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Before it was a single tap to turn Bluetooth on/off, and a tap+hold to open the Bluetooth settings (or any quick setting tile in your notification tray). Maybe you just didn't know about that feature but the old way was 100% better.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I miss the 6 small buttons

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

?

Does it not turn on Bluetooth before opening that menu?

It does for me.

Bluetooth on: single tap turns it off.

Bluetooth off: single tap turns it on and opens that menu so you can select a device to connect to. (it still connects to the last connected device automatically) From there tapping back or tapping beside it closes it.

Been that way for several years now. (Samsung A54, and A52 prior to this one)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Going through the comments, I think it's clear to conclude this should be a choice to configure this tile. Some people prefer single tap to turn off, some don't

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I honestly thought this was my own doing and was about to go insane when I couldn't find the setting to revert this. Why on earth would they do this.......

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I've felt this a lot over the years. Regressions in interface designs happen here and there, and I feel it's just people justifying their jobs. We have to change this, and that, and EVERYTHING, to keep it fresh. Where in reality, sometimes only some things need changing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Fuck Google's recent changes to the quick settings panel, really. Especially now that One UI 6 didn't revert those changes like it was done with One UI 5.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Fuck this noise! Hate it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't like it, but I like it more than the old way of holding the button down to get to the menu. I do hate that the "see all" menu doesn't just expand the current menu, it takes you to the old menu. There's definitely hints of windows95 creeping into Android.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

this entire quick actions shade was redesigned either for children or for elders

the space now used for 4 quick actions could fit 12 quick actions before

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

What version are you on? 15? I'm on 14, and for me it's as it ever was. Also, can you replace it by editing the Shortcuts? I was able to replace the Internet thingy with separate toggles for Mobile Data/WiFi by doing that.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think however this is just based on how the average user interacts with this toggle. Very few users actively turn off their BT, ever, as they have frequent situations where they want their BT to just work immediately.

OTOH, this means that in some cases, they need to swap which device to connect to, hence opening the menu on the first tap.

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