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I don't see it dying from my perspective. Its only been getting better and better. The only thing I could see displacing it in my org is maybe Rust due to WASM proving a transition path.

We use TS on the back end to leverage our teams existing skill set and libraries we've built up.

I know it's a meme to use "the next best thing" in the ecosystem, but we've been really happy with the newish Effect library + Bun runtime. Effect is like a merger of the older fp-ts/io-ts libraries (same author works on both) with Zio from the Scala ecosystem. It vastly simplifies the former and the new stuff with dependency injection and defect management is refreshing. With the Bun runtime, we see a 15x faster startup time (great for dev). Its halved the RAM requirements in prod. We don't even need to transpile... We still do for prod to tree-shake dev-only code to ensure its not available in prod, but deploying to dev is FAST.

Wow, he's living in 2012 or whatever. A true time traveler.

Id rather quit than go back to pure JavaScript.

I'm not a FE guy so don't write it much, but I'd always rather use typescript if I had to use anything like JS. Our FE guys use typescript at my current job and my previous one as well

JavaScript will implement the things that work out in TypeScript. So… yes and no?

Personally I'd rather use JSDoc in my own projects for type annotations and call it a day. I find TS a bit annoying but that might be because I'm not that familiar with it.

For me, personally, yep; 100%. I've tried at least 3 times to convert, it just gets in my way. I'm way way faster with plain old JS. But I'm also a Rubyist so it is all ducks anyway.

I don't really get the appeal of strongly typed languages. Can't you just use try/catch blocks, and/or use functional programming and return early if the data structure of whatever you're working with isn't what you expected?

I guess it can help older code easier to maintain because the expected data structure is right there, but you could also just include it in a comment above the function.

I personally find TS slows down initial production of a project and raises so many unnecessary errors.

Is there some huge benefit that I'm missing? Because I don't really get the appeal. I mean, I do on some level, but I don't really understand why so many people are absolutely obsessed with TS.

Have you tried slapping your manager?

The only valid argument against typescript is that it is too similar to vanilla JavaScript. It does not go far enough. We need type systems like Ocaml's.

I suppose you can also complain about needing a build step, but I find this silly. There are so many tools that make this easy or automatic.

I don’t think your manager is sane.

Why on earth would we move back to JavaScript at this point.

Disclosure: I am a TypeScript dev and my boss is fully invested in Microsoft at this point. We use C# .Net and we use Azure and Teams.

If JavaScript implements type safety then I believe it will go away. If not then it will continue to be used.

He might've watched this video: https://youtu.be/5ChkQKUzDCs

TL;DR: Big projects, like Svelte, Drizzle and Turbo ditched TypeScript

Wait until they realise its pointless…