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Apple's implementation of other PWA standards requires an app to be opened from the home screen. A user can't access features of the app if they can't add it to the homescreen.

nodebb and discourse are working on activitypub support. See https://crag.social/@devnull/111732273308478221

I don't see it withering away anytime soon. My entire career has been enterprise web development (which is why I roll my eyes at all the web dev rants). Every company I've worked at has used Java on the backend and some JS framework for the frontend. Java has only been improving in that time and getting much easier to write. I don't see companies taking an (in their view) unnecessary risk that makes it harder for them to hire and lose efficiency, at least in the short to medium term.

I think the only way that changes is if developers are interested enough to try Rust, or any other language, in their free time. If they like it enough, they'll suggest it at work. If enough developers are doing that, it'll slowly shift the local scene.

If Mozilla open sourced it years ago like they promised, it could be picked up by someone else.

But #1 is predicated on #2. If developers are aware of the risk of EEE, then they won't try to remain compatible with Meta extensions, which means development of the open AP ecosystem will continue at the same pace.

Yes I read that and explained why I don't think its relevant. Facebook can't slow down progress on the fediverse because:

1. progress is already slow. The fediverse has been in development for 15 years and still is a clunky, niche network and likely will always be less polished than large corporate networks.
2. Every developer on the fediverse is aware of the EEE playbook and next to none of them will try to remain compatible with any corporate extensions.

I've never really understood the EEE argument here. XMPP was an open proptocol, Google embraced it and attracted users, then extended it and took those users away. But according to this article, Google didn't extinguish XMPP. It's still around and serving its niche community.

That's already the situation the fediverse is in. This is a niche community and there are already existing social media companies that the majority of internet users are on. If Facebook joins the fediverse, it brings billions of new users to the fediverse. If they then leave the fediverse, ActivityPub will still be here and all of us on the real fediverse will still be here, in a niche community. Everyone here has already chosen the fediverse despite it being a clunky, unpolished, niche network. How is EEE a relevant fear for the fediverse?

They abuse the subject field which I think lemmy ignores. name is a separate field that is used for the title

It's not as common to push users to apps on desktop, but its a tried-and-true practice on mobile. I'm sure companies would do it if they could, but app stores and app lockin aren't as strong on desktop as on mobile

Users can block those with extensions so the data isn't as reliable

there is an initiative for federated git "forges" called ForgeFed. I'm on mobile but will find some links when I'm on desktop