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One thing I get a lot as an Isogender is people who are confused about what it means or who think it's just trans. I'm going to break down what it means, why we are not trans, or cis for that matter, while also addressing some of the arguments brought up about us (these are arguments I and others have recieved on this).


What does it mean to be Isogender?

Isogender is a gender modality which falls outside of the cis and trans umbrellas, it exists as its own thing. Simply put Isogender is neither cis nor trans. You might be wondering how does that work exactly if cis=AGAB and trans≠AGAB? Well it's slightly different for different people but one explanation I've heard is that AGAB is Irrelevant to people who identify as Isogender.

Personally the way that cis and trans are worded or described these days isn't great in my opinion as it seems to try and remove other options outside of the two. It enforces a binary, under those strict definitions one can either be Cis or Trans with no clear path In-between or neither.


"Isogender is 'technically' trans then because it isn't cis, you're just choosing not to Identify as trans"

Nope it isn't, it is neither cis nor trans, the reason is that we identify as neither. It's based on the idea that the way we identify is valid and determines who we are. Arguing technicality when it comes to a person's identity is very invalidating, as if to say they are wrong about how they identify without directly saying they're wrong.


"Isogender doesn't exist, you're in denial about being trans bc Internalized Transphobia"

Umm... No. If it didn't exist it wouldn't have been coined and it wouldn't have multiple Wiki pages about it. People are free to identify how they feel is comfortable, an trying to argue that their identity or reasons for not identifying as trans aren't valid and that they have transphobia isn't respecting their identity, it's attempting to change their mind by telling them that it is bad or wrong to not identify as trans, or to not feel comfortable identifying as trans.


"It's important to identify as trans even if you are Non-Binary to show that transgender is more than transsexual"

Yeah... No, it's important to identify the way that feels comfortable and correct for you. Gender identities are for the person identifying, not anyone else. You should not, nor should you be expected to identify a particular way for someone else. If it feels right to identify as trans then you can, if it doesn't than you don't have to, that's like the whole point of Isogender and other gender modalities, having options outside of the dichotomy.


"Anyone without Gender Dysphoria is just Cis and wants attention"

Transmedicalism will not be tolerated here under Rule 3 and Rule 4, there is no debate here, transmedicalism is a very hostile and harmful form of gatekeeping. People's identities are Valid and should be respected, transmedicalism fights against that, so it should be treated as the form of Bigotry that it is.


Conclusion

While this may not have covered all basis I did get to touch on what Isogender is, as well as some of the misconceptions and also some of the extremely harmful arguments related to it, and hopefully addressed them so we will not see them posted here out of Ignorance.

I will leave this post up in case people would like to add anything else, or engage in constructive criticism but if there is any significant hostility or attacks the comments may be locked.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly, people should be able to live their lives without being judged for what gender they are or how they present.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Indeed, this is why I feel that assigned gender is a very hostile construct which is imposed upon people. People (usually righties, but it seems everyone is guilty of this argument) claim "iT's jUst aN oBseRvAtioN" when it's actually quite arbitrary, since they can just choose for intersex people (and often choose wrong) what's worse is that for intersex people who do have id done wrong to them people will say "it wasn't wrong, you're just trans (a minimization argument I hear a lot which is really gross, demeaning, and invalidating) which stings even harder when it's from members of the LGBTQIA who are supposed to be supportive, I had a friend who went through this and everyone insisted he was a trans man, even though he knew from his medical records.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I sometimes wear hoodies (not dysphoria hoodies 🙃) in the summer even when it's like that because oddly enough I occasionally get chills and feel cold, even though it's usually over 32C I don't know why it happens and it sucks when it does (especially when people ask me why I'm shivering when it's hot outside).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I think you're either overselling their defensive capabilities (like mods there do) or the solutions you used are just leaky and awful. I've found Tor to work very well, less complicated than the solutions you presented since it's basically an all in one. I had an account on there for almost a year only through Tor so it works well, but I lost the password and since I used a throwaway email account is gone for good, but still not shadowbanned.

I have 4 other accounts (I'm not going to say which ones they are, makes the job of admins harder) still been going for over two months.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

You can usually appeal shadow-bans and they overturn them I've found, you have to send an appeal showing both that you know but also pretend you don't know why otherwise they'll think they owned you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

The fact that you are assuming someone wants to use Tor on Lemmy to do something illegal shows that you have fallen prey to the idea that Tor itself is illegal or meant for illegal activity, it's the driving force behind many of the pushes to block Tor or even to attempt to extinguish it.

Fact of the matter is Tor is a tool, a tool that like any is not inherently evil or illegal. Tor's purpose also isn't to facilitate illegal activity, its purpose is to provide privacy and anonymity to people who want it. It sounds to me like you have been listening to a lot of those "scary" deep web videos or assuming people use Tor for those reasons and not for legitimate privacy and security reasons, (like for example did you know that Lemmy doesn't proxy images?). This is one thing I really hate about those types of content, they portray the idea of privacy and security as if it's evil or nefarious, or that the idea of hosting your own hidden service is creepy or wrong, it's really gross actually, all for clicks and views, but they push it as if it's real, it's harmful to services like Lemmy which are currently outside of the mainstream and probably are associated with Dark web contend just by virtue of not being Big tech products, for a while I'd heard similar stories about linux too (people talked about how linux is for criminals, glad that one didn't catch on).

TL;DR you shouldn't be assuming that people want to use Tor (a privacy and security tool) for nefarious or evil purposes due to it's reputation with nontechnical people, especially when those people are known for spreading misleading or even wrong information about the subject itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I know they require them, it's is the way that they're implemented that I'm referring to. Like they made it deliberately frustrating. Some of them one a few websites even pop up twice or even three times and you have to click them multiple times to get them to go down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think it might have something to do with the fact that much of Europe has privacy laws that protect their citizens and also makes it so people running nodes there don't have to kiss up to US companies. Hence why they block those nodes or just give them a huge amount of challenges to solve in hopes to frustrate them. Same with how they put annoying privacy pop-ups on the website in European locations which re-appear every time you login or visit the site.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In my experience it's a bit slower but not by much, I usually only access text based websites over Tor though with minimal images, streaming over YouTube can be horribly slow but it's generally worked okay for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Might also be a good idea to use something like Ublock origin and Portmaster as well, don't just try to curate ad targeting, block them, if you want to still support websites you can use something like adnauseam which clicks the ads.

I'm not trying to say that Tor isn't a good idea because they should be blocking ads, I think more people should absolutely use it for better anonymous browsing, I only bring up ad blockers because if people don't want to be targeted ads they should be blocking them.

Bonus: Add anti-adblock filters to ad-block, it helps significantly with sites that try to detect them, also spam and malware filters are essential.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hate to burst your bubble but many of the stories are just that, stories. Vast majority of the onion sites out there are either forums like 4chan or hobbyist sites like the old days of the internet.

Illegal websites do exist but they're rare and hard to find, they also are subject to being taken down. They're nothing like the stories though. In fact majority of the websites that exist when you search for these topics are just bitcoin scams, i.e. a livestream website that asks you to pay $200 in bitcoin to enter, almost certainly a scam because livestreaming over Tor is terrible due to low spead and it breaks the anonymity due to generating tons of unique traffic.

TL;DR Tor is a tool that can be used for privacy on the clearnet it can also be used to host your own onion sites. Dark web stories do have a small element of truth to them but are mostly scary stories to tell in the dark.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use it, it's a bit slow and you sometimes get lots of captchas but overall I think it's pretty good.

 

[IMAGE DESCRIPTION] drowning kid + skeleton Meme

In the top panel a mother and her kids are together in a swimming pool. The mother with text "egg_irl" is holding up her daughter with the text "transfems" over her. Meanwhile her son is drowning while she doesn't notice him with the text "transmascs" over him.

In the bottom Panel a skeleton is chained to a chair at the bottom of the ocean with the text "NonBinary/Genderqueer", "Genderfluid", and "Agender" over it. Each label is colored in the colors of their own Flags respectively.

[END OF IMAGE DESCRIPTION]

context: Back on the original egg_irl subreddit it was common for there to be a disproportionate amount of transfem memes versus the others and a lot of them forgot to flair as [CW: Assumes Viewer is Transfem] when needed and also a few were a bit targeting towards transmascs and masculine enbies i.e.

spoiler"get rid of your toxic, masculine mannerisms"
or
spoiler"transmascs have cute feminine faces"
. Some people even started saying Egg_irl is specifically a women's space and not a trans space in general.

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