MudMan

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This. People NEED to stop anthropomorphising chatbots. Both to hype them up and to criticise them.

I mean, I'd argue that you're even assigned a loop that probably doesn't exist by seeing this as a seed for future training. Most likely all of these responses are at most hallucinations based on the millions of bullshit tweets people make about the guy and his typical behavior and nothing else.

But fundamentally, if a reporter reports on a factual claim made by an AI on how it's put together or trained, that reporter is most likely not a credible source of info about this tech.

Importantly, that's not the same as a savvy reporter probing an AI to see which questions it's been hardcoded to avoid responding or to respond a certain way. You can definitely identify guardrails by testing a chatbot. And I realize most people can't tell the difference between both types of reporting, which is part of the problem... but there is one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (9 children)

It already happened. I mean, they elected the guy. They knew this would happen. They did it on purpose.

Do we joke a lot? I'm not joking when I say I don't much care about what happens to them now, just what happens to everybody else. And I'm not particularly willing to be ha-ha funny about how much I despise both the fascist half of the US that made it happen and the entitled, disinterested half that let it happen. I get the feeling that I'm harsher than most, but I don't get the impression that people in general find it funny, either.

Is this written from a US perspective? Are people laughing it off there?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Which, incidentally is about as much intelligence as it takes to "make a difference". Anon is here assuming you need an engineering degree to outsurvive a moose, when all it takes is "hey, if put bad potato underground many good potato come up later".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

To be fair the security concerns they are referencing aren't about the model itself, but instead about their self-hosted version used via some mobile or web app interface. Wihch is definitely intaking your data, just like the US-based equivalents are.

Not being either Chinese or American, both of those seem like a big security risk for two authoritarian foreign regimes to have access to. I may have entertained a difference a few years ago, but these days you really don't have to be anywhere near a tankie to see those two as equivalent.

If you're going to run a LLM for something, do it locally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

And just to be clear, the "hype" works more or less the same way when it's leftie nerds cheering the drops than when it's cultists cheering the increases.

Which is probably why people weren't acknowledging that despite the huge drops they were still up year on year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it's not. You literally presented the same comparison and got a two paragraph description of how the two models aren't the same, which you're aggressively ignoring, I have to assume for the sake of trolling.

This conversation is bonkers and it is now over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What are you even doing, man? That's a quote from four posts ago. Out of context, at that.

The term "gaslighting" is overused on the Internet, but misquoting myself at me while ignoring my own responses is... quite the attempt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I did not. My actual response is still up there. Saying it doesn't say what it says doesn't magically rewrite it, that's a very weird thing to attempt.

I mean, you know I wrote it, right? I didn't forget, it was ten minutes ago. Nobody else is reading these.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It is absolutely not. As I'm telling the other person with selective amnesia, Gamestop (and a couple of identical retailers worldwide) had dominant control over both the first sale and all resales and leveraged it to force abusive practices on game developers and publishers, competitors and their more vulnerable customers.

It wasn't a used book store, it was the equivalent of Amazon also owning 80% of the physical bookstores, telling writers which books would get shelf space, refusing to keep any stock unless someone had preordered it, then proceeding to aggressively hound readers to resell every one of their books and mark them up by several times the cut they got on a first sale, then using that additional second had profit to keep buying locations and driving smaller stores out of business.

That's not how used book stores operate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

There's nothing intrinsically unethical about buying and selling used goods, and all buying and selling as a business needs to turn some profit.

There is absolutely a TON unethical with how Gamestop's model went about it. From their iron grip on shelf space to their aggressive pushing of preordering to avoid having to keep any stock whatsoever to their pricing structure and targeting of kids and students in a space where reselling of this particular type of used goods was not easily handled online and as a result had next to zero upwards pressure on price.

This argument superficially makes sense in a world of used game sales as fundamentally a collector's business mediated by online logistics companies for door-to-door sales, but that wasn't Gamestop's world. Gamestop existed in a world where they controlled both the first sale and all subsequent resales after having driven a bunch of smaller businesses to residual status by leveraging all the used sales money into a competitive advantage against both them and game publishers.

It sucked. It was an entirely parasytic model designed to syphon money away from everybody involved by virtue of controlling real estate. Their demise is one of very few silver linings in the world of "you own nothing" digital distribution.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Problem with this chart is it's missing US visitors, so it doesn't tell you all that much about the overall impact.

But man, the argument isn't some grassroots boycott of the US tourism industry. The argument is that going to an authoritarian country with a mass incarceration habit when you don't actually have to is a terrible idea. European countries are issuing travel warnings for people. ICE is detaining travellers with valid visas.

Just stay safe, the tourism industry boycott takes care of itself if you do.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm confused. How do Canadians stop electing Trump, exactly?

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