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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Actually, now I'm curious how they will handle cases of people with more than 2 chromosomes.

Me too. Actually, this is explicitly called out in the article,

World Athletics’s testing requirements would also affect small numbers of competitors who were born with atypical sex chromosomes.

But they don't say what would happen. The easy ones: presumably, XYY is treated the same as XY and XO is treated like XX. But how would XXY be handled? Or cases where we have genetic chimerism - e.g. some cells are XY and some are XO or XX. (One way this happens is if fraternal twins of different sex are in the womb, and then one absorbs the other.)

Intersexed folks at best seem to be an afterthought in this proposal.

If the tests are sensitive enough, someone with XY gonadal dysgenesis might be counted as XX as well, though I'm skeptical on this point. Actually, this is exactly why such tests are bad - someone who presents as female in virtually every public way, and would be seen as female in terms of sex under even many forms of medical examinations, could be treated as male under these rules and forced to compete against men.

It's the exact opposite of what the anti-trans folks say that they want to accomplish - protecting women from male athletes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s exactly what these idiots want so they should just move.

It's not like I disagree with you on this, but... who says they can? How would they do it? It sounds to me like you're suggesting they just pack a trailer, drive south, overstay and live as undocumented migrants.

There'd be a certain poetic justice in that, to be sure, but anyone with two brain cells would be able to understand why living in Canada with full citizenship is better.

I thought by “harder to move” you meant ... like they’re denying people to immigrate there.

Yes! That's exactly what I meant. These folks can't just waltz down into the US of A and expect to stay forever. They have to comply with the existing immigration programs, which rather ironically are harder to comply with under the current administration in the US. Heck, even visiting or working in the US is getting harder.

Granted my above references were more towards the latter, rather than with immigrating per se. We're only a few months in to this term, so we haven't had time to accumulate the data to see trends yet. But in his first term, the number of green cards that got issued by the US was cut down sharply, https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration or see https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-restrictions-legal-immigration-second-term-rcna151994 if you want a less biased and more neutral source.

You think they’ll treat us better once we become the 51st state?

Oh, heck no. I can't find it now but I recall one of the administration officials saying that Canada wouldn't even be a state, it'd be treated like Puerto Rico (a territory with no voting rights).

Basically, we've got to be prepared to defend this country to the death.

They don’t even treat their current 50 states well.

Yes, I know - I only recently escaped myself from that.

there was an administrative issue

Depends on how one defines "administrative" I suppose, but the term is not inaccurate. You could also categorize it as a political issue, as well as a legal issue.

That’s not being fair at all.

Edit: Enjoy your upvote!

Now, there's a huge irony here. These folks like the guy currently running the show down south, even as he makes it harder for them to (legally) join him and his country.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Archive link is available at https://archive.is/fCfth

But I've noticed that it's not resolving universally - e.g. if using cloudflare's DNS then you can't get to archive right now. But you can use something like https://www.croxyproxy.com/ to access the archive link...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

To be fair, recent events like https://lemmy.ca/post/41181182 and https://lemmy.ca/post/41102961 or https://lemmy.ca/post/41065802 or https://lemmy.ca/post/41091031 suggest it'd be harder for them to move over to the US now than it used to be. At least as Canadians.

Most likely, the only realistic option they have for moving to the US would be to attract someone and marryH^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HH

The only realistic option for them is for Canada join the US as a single country. Which is still wildly unrealistic. But it's all they have, sad as it is.

That being said, if a future option opens up - say from a new treaty provides an option where they irreversibly renounce being Canadian in return for getting US citizenship - I wouldn't necessarily say no to that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Same! I went the other way to escape this craziness - now I risk ending up right back where I started.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

The company said: “Any buyer will be required to comply with applicable law with respect to the treatment of customer data.”

And let's hold them to that. There's no way a release of someone's DNA isn't a violation of the GDPR, the CCPA, or something similar. And I'd expect it'd also be protected under various health regulation related laws too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It seems that it's actually quite difficult to get qualifying experience if one does software, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11220591 (since the experience has to be obtained under a P.Eng and it has to fit the safeguarding of life, health, etc criteria (so the work to develop a new gaming app likely isn't going to count).

This is probably why so few folks in software actually have P.Eng as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25826520 (regardless of if they use a title with Engineer in it or not).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

The other part is that the article mentions that she shouldn't have applied for the visa at either spot on the border but at the consulate,

The officer I spoke to was kind but told me that, due to my previous issues, I needed to apply for my visa through the consulate. I told her I hadn’t been aware I needed to apply that way, but had no problem doing it.

So reapplying from where she got refused is still the wrong advice.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The answer is that it depends on Province.

It seems that Quebec is particularly strict here, with Microsoft losing a battle to use the term "Engineers" over two decades ago, https://www.canadianconsultingengineer.com/quebec-order-of-engineers-wins-legal-battle-with-microsoft/

Similarly, it seems there was a lot of activity a couple of years ago in Alberta to protect the term as per https://edmonton.taproot.news/news/2022/10/17/tech-leaders-seek-easing-of-rules-around-software-engineer-designation - with the result that the law is being changed to explicitly exempt "software engineer" from protection as per https://globalnews.ca/news/10084623/engineers-canada-urges-alberta-to-reconsider-change-to-rules-around-engineer-title/

In Ontario specifically - which is the most populated province of Canada - my layman's reading of https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90p28 12 (1),

When licences or certificates required

Licensing requirement

No person shall engage in the practice of professional engineering or hold himself, herself or itself out as engaging in the practice of professional engineering unless the person is the holder of a licence, a temporary licence, a provisional licence or a limited licence.

Similarly, looking at https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/s10016 5(1)

“practice of professional engineering” means any act of planning, designing, composing, evaluating, advising, reporting, directing or supervising that requires the application of engineering principles and concerns the safeguarding of life, health, property, economic interests, the public welfare or the environment, or the managing of any such act; (“exercice de la profession d’ingénieur”)

And from https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illegal-practice/report-unlicensed-individuals-or-companies-2#software

where use of the software impacts the health, safety or property of its users. PEO considers non-licensed use of “Software Engineer” to be a violation of our Act.

But most software development is not, for example, directly related to health & safety.

Basically in Ontario it seems "professional engineer" is the main regulated term, and "engineer" is only restricted in a subset of limited cases. (Note that this might be a relatively recent change though - the Professional Engineers Act is dated to 1990, but the Open for Business Act from 2010 made a number of changes to it. And it's specific to just Ontario.)

Edit: Now it seems that the Ontario branch of Engineers Canada, Professional Engineers Ontario, isn't quite happy with this state of affairs. They make their case here, https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illegal-practice/report-unlicensed-individuals-or-companies in the "Software engineering and misleading certifications" section near the bottom:

PEO has taken action against the use of the term "engineer" by several software companies. PEO negotiated with Banyan Systems to revise its training materials to replace the term "Certified Banyan Engineer" with "CBE". PEO also requested that Microsoft Canada Inc., replace the terms "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer" and "Microsoft Certified Professional Systems Engineer" with alternate terms that do not use the word "engineer", to avoid violating the Professional Engineers Act and trademark legislation.

On July 25, 2002 Microsoft Canada announced that they will continue to use the term 'engineer' as part of the Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) designation.

The rest of the page is just about how to report misuse of the "professional engineer" term, e.g.

use the title "professional engineer" or an abbreviation or variation as an occupational designation

It's quite telling then that the vast majority of jobs in Canada with the title "Network Engineer" are for companies based in Ontario, at least looking at https://ca.indeed.com/q-network-engineer-jobs.html?vjk=4d0293c813a90300

There are other cases of courts declaring engineering to be unprotected, see for example https://www.smartbiggar.ca/insights/publication/canadian-council-of-professional-engineers-fails-to-prevent-registration-of-engineering-mark

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