cosmicsploogedrizzle

joined 2 years ago
MODERATOR OF
ps5
 

Starts in about 15min from this post

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Of course! Whoever runs the server bears the cost. How they pay for it is up to them and the community. Maybe you run your own instance and pay out if pocket. You'd be your own admin and can do whatever you want. Or you join lemmy.ml and maybe donate or sub to patreon, or you don't pay anything. Maybe in the future some instances might make private deals to pin ads at the top in exchange for payment. It's up to the server hoster. Right now it's the wild wild West. If a server gets filled with ads and you don't like it, you pick up shop and join a different server.

What lemmy/the fediverse really needs is an account migration tool, so that if you want to set up shop elsewhere, you can export all your subscriptions and settings, etc and import it into a new profile on a new instance. That will come with time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, somewhat. Communities are like subreddits. So yes, if a community is doing what people don't like they can pick up and make a new community. A good example is on reddit r/gaming used to be more discussion and news focused but over time it became more popular and filled with memes. Some in the community didn't like this so they made the r/games subreddit which is news and discussion focused.

On lemmy, that new community can be made on the same instance or on a different instance.

What I was getting at, was that in addition to this, if the communities on an instance dont like how an entire instance is being run, they can pick up shop and just move to a new instance. As a user you'd have to make a new account on a new instance, but you'd be able to subscribe to all the same communities on the instances you like.

To simplify: Instances are run by admins, communities by mods. On reddit your only option is to make a new subreddit and change your mods if you don't like something, but you will always have u/spez as your admin. On lemmy, you can ditch your admins and set up shop with other admins.

To answer your kbin vs lemmy question: The only reason you would pick one over the other would mostly be due to their layout and customization. Additionally, instances can block other instances, so you might like kbins layout, but maybe they block an instance that has a community that you like. Like. Conversely, kbin might have a cool community you want to subscribe to, but your specific lemmy instance is blocking it. So you can do what I said above, you pick up shop and you set up in an instance that doesn't block the community you want to join. Alternatively, you can set up your own instance on your own server and then you can join anything you want, provided that you aren't so toxic that other communities potentially block you lol.

I have general helpful additional links in the bottom of my sidebar over on my community https://lemmy.ml/c/ps5 if you want to see how you can do some of what I said above.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks! Feel free to cross post it!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Imagine there were multiple reddit websites. Reddit.com, reddit.org, reddit.social, etc. Doesn't matter what account you have, you can see communities/subreddits across anyone of them.

That's Lemmy.

When you make a lemmy account, it's more like an email address. You are [email protected], I am [email protected]. Someone else is [email protected]. We can all chat and post and have a good time no matter what website/instance we post to.

That's how users work on lemmy. Just like email. Communities on lemmy work the exact same way as users.

If all you're interested in is that, then you can stop there and fully enjoy your time with lemmy as a reddit replacement.

The future potential and complexity comes from the next part:

The fediverse is someone said, "hey, you know how people on reddit can't follow people on Twitter, or people on YouTube can't subscribe to subreddits, or people on Instagram can't leave YouTube comments? Well let's make it so you can.

Now this isn't perfectly implemented at the moment, and there are a lot of growing pains (it's kinda like the wild wild West), but you can make a mastodon account (like Twitter), and follow the this lemmy community [email protected] on it, and you'll see all the posts and all the comments that you would otherwise see on lemmy, just in a twitter-like format.

It's not perfect and compatibility across these decentealized apps is not perfectly impremented atm, but in the future you could theoretically have one giant interconnected web where everything from "Twitter" to "reddit" to "YouTube" to "Instagram" to whatever fediverse equivalent app are all interwoven. And if any instance of them gets a big enough head to pull something like reddit is pulling, or what Twitter has been pulling, the community can just make a new "email" on a different instance/website and continue as of nothing changed. No single website/instance can abuse their power, because another instance can be spun up any time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn, where the hell should we go?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Very well put, I'm going to cross post this in my community [email protected]

1
Bleak Sword DX on Steam (store.steampowered.com)
 

It just launched on Steam a moment ago. So it should be available here very soon!

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1153901

I made this community to provide a place for Playstation players to hang out, socialize, post links, and otherwise do what people do on a link aggregator website.

When I came to Lemmy I noticed that there was no Playstation community, and that c/Playstation was seemingly defunct. While this community is called PS5, I'm not going to limit discussion to a narrow focus for now. So anything PSX, PS2, PS3, PS4, PSP, PS Vita, Remote Play (Official or Chiaki), or even Emulation is all game. As Lemmy communities mature, I may decide to narrow the focus, but for now consider anything Playstation related good to go!

Anyway, lets all build a great and kind community! Head over to the sidebar for more info. I will likely add more links and resources as time goes on.

 

I've seen lots of discussion on reddit of users trying to get others to join Lemmy and the prevailing reply is that it is too difficult to navigate and comprehend. Having to answer multiple questions and wait for manual verification is combersome and is limiting growth at a time when nothing should be standing in Lemmy's way. Combine this with server/instance selection analysis paralysis, and you get my point.

The linked mastodon blog post sums up my thoughts, but the TLDR is essentially this:

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Don't let dreams of decentralization interfere with the greater goal of achieving the network effect.

We should all be telling people to go to lemmy.ml and sign up. The devs should be too, and they should rethink/remove the questions and waiting period. Hell, just put a captcha. Discussions about servers and analogies to email as an example of federated service we all already use is a waste of breath. We shouldn't have barriers to entry.

Thoughts?

EDIT: I've just found kbin.social and find it has superior signup options. It's just: make an account (email/password), or sign up with Google or Apple. No server talk. Upside is the layout is nice and it acts as a Lemmy instance (threads) as well as a mastodon instance (microblogging). Only downside currently is that their android/iOS app is in development and isn't ready yet, so desktop only.

https://github.com/ernestwisniewski/kbin

https://kbin.social/

I think this might be the better recommendation for newbies at the moment.

view more: ‹ prev next ›