kshade

It's a thing kids say to taunt each other, "girls go to college to get more knowledge, boys go to Jupiter, to get more stupider".

I’m past 40 and while in my head I still consider myself progressive, I used to show it much more when I was younger. I was honest about my insecurities, I would try not to take up too much space as a man, would try to split responsibilities equally, and so on. At every turn this has caused me problems in relationships, not least with my wife of 10 years who left me for some muscular macho guy because she “doesn’t feel like I can take care of her”.

It always seems to come down to traditional gender roles being dehumanizing. Men traditionally aren't allowed to be "weak", women traditionally aren't allowed to be "strong" (but there's been some work done on that). It took me a while to fully internalize (not just know) that, first and foremost, both are people with all the complexities that come with that. I personally would rather die alone than live every day in fear that I'm not pretending well enough to fit a stereotype. I'm probably over-dramatizing though, just really can't stand stereotyping.

Especially when the messaging is constant and there’s no room for nuance.

Like with #YesAllMen

"Oh wow, those scumbags really stole all that worthless, sentimental stuff before they ran into us? Serves 'em right then."

• Capitalism is always given as the reason something is bad, that way nobody has to try and improve anything because the revolution is for later and working within the system is supporting the bad thing.

I am not saying that, no. But I'm also done with restating what I'm saying over and over only to be hit with another weird interpretation. I'm sorry if you weren't doing that intentionally but it's been nothing but frustrating.

I'm speaking in the context of this thread, specifically about the situation with Israel, Palestine and the surrounding countries. This Hadith is being used by the more extreme preachers to justify teaching their followers that Jewish people are evil, without necessarily focusing on the end times themselves. It's just "proof" for their teachings. I am aware that this isn't a thing for all Muslims everywhere, the Wikipedia articles I linked to also point that out.

what can we conclude from reading it in isolation without any real world evidence or reference to the actual Muslim people giving it that consideration?

Hamas isn't real Muslims?

Nice use of selective quoting, the situation had already escalated at that point. From your source, one paragraph before yours:

The advance of the army was again halted by another blockade at Muxidi, about 5 km west of the square. After protesters repelled an attempt by an anti-riot brigade to storm the bridge, regular troops advanced on the crowd and turned their weapons on them. Soldiers alternated between shooting into the air and firing directly at protesters. Soldiers raked apartment buildings with gunfire, and some people inside or on their balconies were shot.

And, from the beginning of the section:

At 9:30 p.m, this army encountered a blockade set up by protesters at Gongzhufen in Haidian District, and made an attempt to break through. Troops armed with anti-riot gear clashed with the protesters and began firing rubber bullets and tear gas, while the protesters in return threw rocks and soda bottles at them. Other troops fired warning shots into the air, which was ineffective.

Your argument seems to be that the Hadith is totally irrelevant. Hamas and the person you're replying to seem to think otherwise. Maybe it isn't irrelevant just because it isn't in the Quran and has a passage about shouty trees in it? Religions are hardly consistent, especially at the fringes.

The tl;dr is that an antichrist-like figure, the Dajjal, will appear during the end times, leading to a battle between his followers and the righteous. The more extreme interpretations claim that all or almost all Jews will be on the Dajjal's side. Example:

A Sahih hadith concerning Jews and one of the signs of the coming of Judgement Day has been quoted many times, (it became a part of the charter of Hamas).

The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.

Other groups mentioned as mostly falling to the Dajjal, depending who you ask, are singers and musicians (because music is sinful I'm assuming), Bedouins, women, Turks and probably many others. It's just one of these things that lends itself to being instrumentalized.