taladar

You can easily look up the owner of the IP address space to get the provider.

Staying quiet is probably a habit developed during teenage maturation years (while still living with parents).

The real question is if there is any benefit at all from federating content that is consumed in very different contexts at all. I mean even if you filter it down to exactly the content you prefer, do you really want your porn consumption interrupted by the latest political news in the same feed? Even if you are interested in both types of content you might not want it at literally the same time.

Similar arguments could also be made for instances meant for children heavily limiting their federation of course to avoid contact with material not meant to be seen by children (news and porn alike).

Honestly, at the current state of Lemmy I just don't see porn and non-porn instances federating as a good idea. The system would need a whole redesign to avoid storing the porn content on the other instances at all for most instance owners to even consider it. That problem is a lot larger than merely hiding the extreme kinks or all porn posts from the All feed of other instances.

As with any moderation efforts if you publish some clear, limited rules about it trolls will find a way to technically not violate the rules and yet still be obnoxious in some way and then point to the rules to claim you can't defederate, ban,... them because they didn't violate your published rules.

As mentioned in my post above, I do not think most NSFW content is actually like that, where the same set of users considers the same content to be undesirable.

It might certainly be a bit better than the current state of affairs but then you also need support across the fediverse for the flags you describe so it will take a while to spread and would still only allow the moderator of the community and maybe the instance admin of that community to control what is seen in the general feed.

I agree that it would have to be Lemmy-wide to be useful, however I do not like inline tagging, that would make it harder to allow others to edit tags and might also only display the tags in shortened versions of the post in previews.

I have been thinking about the whole tagging problem a bit in the last few days and I feel NSFW or even multiple levels of that are not really going to be enough.

For almost any given kink and even just gender and body types or parts displayed there are going to be users who are looking for that content, users who can take it or leave it, users who do not want to see that content in their feed, users who might get into legal trouble if someone sees it on their screen, users and instances who might get into legal trouble if they download that content,...

And of course which user is in which group for any given type of content varies by their preferences, jurisdiction or even where they currently are (home, in public,...).

So I think content will need to be tagged in some way with the type of content and instances and users will need to have configurable filter rules, possibly even multiple rulesets to switch between for home and public.

It is probably not sensible to try to make one global set of possible tags for a federated system like Lemmy.

There might also be some other non-kinky concerns that could be integrated into a filter system like that like text VS audio vs video,... or languages or content warnings for discussions of sensitive topics.

For the actual tagging system it might be useful to look at other websites like f-list, e-hentai or the various picture hosting sites with tagging. Personally I think something with tag pairs or tuples might be useful in a porn context since a lot of kink preferences are gender specific (e.g. people might like anal with a female recipient but not with a male one or vice versa).

Another issue is, of course, who is allowed to add, modify, or move tags and if communities will have a default set of tags for their posts. Tags might also need a flag to display content tagged with it by default or not.

I think I rambled on long enough but I thought some discussion on the topic could be useful, especially while there are few resources to implement things and considering it would be good to get it right on the first try.

Caching has other downsides though, mostly for content that might not be legal in an instance's jurisdiction.

Actually that is not really how Lemmy works. As long as at least one user from here subscribes to a community from there the community is right back in All here. And if no user is allowed to subscribe to something there you don't really gain anything from federation.

Actually it would still show up in All as long as at least one user on this instance is subscribed to a community on the other one. Just not in Local.

The problem is that some of the categories of images that people might not want to pop up in their feed are very vanilla, e.g. dick pics are not kinky or extreme, just not something a lot of straight guys and lesbian women want in their feed. So should they also not be posted? What about feet? Some might not want giant pictures of feet on their screen. Or maybe rough sex? Some people also really don't like cuckolding, so no pictures with captions or post titles for that? Where does it end?