Lemmy NSFW

Exploding-heads was defederated by lemmy.world due nazi content afaik, which itself is illegal in many countries, and targets minorities.

Am I missing something?

Edit: or you are talking only about lemmit.online?

Lemmit was at the topic of discussion and I was desiring input by putting that in there. We are discussing it, but we are leaning against defederating it as it wouldn't make sense to. Someone just brought it up and I wanted public input.

If you block the lemmit bot, it's like blocking the whole instance as it's the same "user" that does all the posting across all communities on that instance. They really have made it really easy for users to not see lemmit if they don't want to, and I appreciate that.

It's not just content though, essentially it's bots.

The problem with bots isn't just spam, a social network is defined by the interaction among the community...I think that's a fair call.

I might be up for having unscripted LLMs on the network, but repost bots are like a weird smell... It's not that big a deal individually, but it'll make the community noticably worse

It was a topic of discussion I wanted community input from as someone brought it up. We are leaning against defederation of it currently.

When it comes to hosting a community like this that hands off policy when it comes to communities that reddit did for a time is not something we can repeat. I generally disagree with such community building ethos in general, but for a NSFW community that's trying not to implode the high probability that exploding-heads would cause issues serious issues against minority sexual communities here in the same way they have on other instances is not something I feel we can risk. Even more so, their content is poorly moderated in general and we aren't too sure where we are going to move hosts either. On instances that decided the same approach you feel, it has backfired hard when they have raided communities and began to harass and brigade people. Such cases are recent as well. I'd have to double check the modlog but I'm pretty sure they've already caused issues here as well on a consistent basis.

TL;DR: I don't want to set myself up to having to clean up a bunch of gore and NSFL images being posted into communities on here.

This is reactive, not just proactive. The history of exploding-heads is known.

I'll counter with the point that there's nothing preventing someone from moving to another instance if they don't like the defederation practices of the one they're on.

There's sure to be at least one that doesn't care to defederate from anyone and/or one that only does so under the most severe circumstances. Worst case if you can not find one that suits your positions on defederation you can always start up your own.

Personally I'm inclined to think of the people in control of the federation keys as bouncers, keeping me from having to deal with the unsightly/undesirable/what have you.

If every time you go to (neighboring town) someone shoots at your tires, you stop going, right? But those (neighborhood town)ers really like shooting your tires so when you stop showing up, they come looking for you. How are you supposed to keep them away? But everyone's threshold is different. Some people may not mind their tires being shot at, those (neighboring town)ers are just expressing their freedoms. Others are uncomfortable with their tires being looked at weird. It doesn't make any part of the spectrum right or wrong, but different people have different wants and needs. It's no more fair for you to expect others to deal with their tires getting weird looks than it is for them to prevent you from getting yours shot.

That's how the splintering can be best for everyone. No one is forced anywhere they don't want to be. Whether an instance defederates too much or too little for you, you can pick up and move with very little effort.

burgitt hosts loli/shota/etc exploding-heads are an alt right instance that is very poorly moderated lemmygrad are a tankie instance (their own description, not mine.) lemmy.ml I believe defed-ed us as well which is their right to. I am unsure about kbin.social. I tried to contact kbin.social admins but I am unsure where to.

burggit - loli/shota

lemmygrad - commies

exploding heads - nazis

This is off topic to your point but lets say, hypothetically, my friend was interested in a CNC-allowed instance, would you have any recommendations?