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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I’m sorry you went through that!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This was some informal “research” I did with my family a friends a few years ago. It seems to be consistent with the published research I’ve found about pencil grasp variation.

I know all of these people, some of them have autism or other neurological differences, and there was no correlation between pencil grasps and neurological differences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

This is not that bad! See my other reply to OP, but this one is actually pretty common. Holding it closer to the base of your thumb (“in the web space”) and pressing down harder with the end joint of your index finger (“distal interphalangeal joint hyperextension”) can limit how much precision your have with very small movements and make your muscles fatigue faster if you write or draw a lot, BUT it adds a lot of stability, which is why a lot of people use these modifications.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Occupational therapist here. About 80% of people use a tripod (which is considered the “right” way to hold a pencil) or quadropod grasp. A tripod fingertip grasp is technically the “best” because it makes the most efficient use of the musculature of the hand. When you hold a pencil with the tips of your first two fingers opposite the tip of your thumb, this uses the smallest and fewest muscles to control the movement of the pencil. The closer the pencil moves to the base of your fingers, the more and larger muscles you will need to use to move it around, which leads to fatigue and, sometimes, pain with extended writing.

There’s the technical side. Now for the functional reality.

First, 20% of people DON’T use a tripod grasp, and this is not a sign of neurological differences. It’s true there is a correlation between autism and difficulty with motor planning, but one does not equal the other.

Second, since our society does not actually require extensive handwritten text anymore, this skill is just not as vital as it once was. Lots of (especially older) teachers and OT colleagues may disagree with me, but occupational therapists are supposed to focus on a person’s ability to functionally participate in work, play, and self-care, not attempt to make them do things “the right way.”

Third, if your pencil grasp IS causing you pain or excess fatigue because of the demands of your job, school, or hobbies, occupational therapy can help. We do this by teaching a different pencil grasp (which OP has tried) or modifying the task (different types of writing tools/pencil grips, positioning the paper on a slanted surface, typing, or even voice-to-text).

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This looks like an email my boomer dad would forward to everyone he knows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I usually borrow audio books from my library. You could check to see if your library has that option.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I just want to say that I really appreciate your post. I’ve wondered about this and the comments have been enlightening.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

We use a pure-clay, non-clumping litter for that reason. I hate the chemical smell of the clumping litters. I’ve also heard really great things about wood pellets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Came here for this reply.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Thank you for this question and this reply, as I have wondered the same thing about testosterone levels and never thought of this part of the issue.