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Trump plans to lift the Biden administration’s freeze on supplying 2,000-pound bombs to Israel and reverse sanctions against Israeli settlers.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By not voting, you voted for genocide under Trump. There is no neutrality against fascism, and there is no nonparticipation. You're either against them or you're with them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Genocide under Trump vs. genocide under Biden isn't a big moral difference. Your argument is supposed to be that the other moral issues are critically important, not that the flavor of genocides are important.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"there's zero difference between mostly good with a little bad, and an absolute shitstorm of horrors"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Genocide" as "a little bad" is quite the fucking choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A lot of genocide, a lot of oppression, a lot of revoking human rights, a lot of political persecution, a lot shifting blame, is quite the fucking choice

And Biden actually pushed for ceasefire and got one. Trump doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And Biden actually pushed for ceasefire and got one.

A naive genocide apologist, what a shock. Israeli commentary on the right is that there's not much reason to still be there as they've pretty much destroyed everything already. The time to push for a ceasefire was this time last year, and then to actually do something to bring it about. And it's not even a real cease fire! They're still killing people! They're a vast distance between the things politicians say and the things that actually happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fascinating how you think I'm the apologist when you at no point have been capable of criticizing Trump for being far worse, not acknowledging your own personal role in ensuring the genocide will get worse by helping Trump win, not acknowledging that those who opposed Trump did so to prevent things from getting worse, and that you then instead of helping prevent things get worse decided to send us spiraling down into a far far worse situation, for literally no other reason than that you're an asshole who thinks the genocide is about you, because why else would you take an action that you claim is to make things "better" by removing a flawed person from power, when you knew all along the replacement would be worse? You're only trying to ensure you didn't support a person who didn't do enough to prevent a genocide - meanwhile that decision actually means you made an active choice to make the genocide worse.

You're only trying to shift blame. You and your crowd are personally responsible for things getting worse and you know it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His point was that in this specific issue Trump wasn't worse. You're acting like a lame duck president got the ceasefire, but that's frankly delusional. The Knesset knew they were getting trump, Biden didn't achieve anything different. Israel is just doing what it's internal politics directs it to. You're arguing for a distinction on this issue without an actual difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But Trump IS worse

The prior Trump admin's peace deal proposal was giving Israel total control over all of Palestine (full responsibility for physical security), and give them free land in the west bank, with no rights guaranteed to Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That is my argument, which you know, which is why you're trying to pretend it isn't. Does this normally work on people or something?