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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

I mean he's trying to find the healthiest things to help people live longer.

I'm not sure about the dick thing. But he's carrying out many experiments with food, sleep habits etc.

Although you're only focusing on the erection thing. Which seems a small part of the research.

I don't think he deserves backlash for trying to help people generally

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is he though? He does so many things at once and only on himself. I don't think you can call that research.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

Also let's be real. He's not trying to help anyone but himself. If he ever does find some miracle cure that significantly slows aging, you can bet your ass that he'll charge so much for it that only his billionaire cronies will be able to afford it

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And what useful data comes from one rich asshole trying EVERYTHING? This is not science, it's existential desperation sprinkled on a soufflé of wealth and cringe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Why are you so angry at him?

He's literally trying to make people live longer.

I don't see why you're calling him vulgar names.

He's trying many things to see what works and what doesn't.

Your vitriol seems misplaced and I don't understand your aggression towards someone trying to be helpful to society in general. It's bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People are upset because this person has the means to effect real altruistic change but instead is pretending to do science in a purely selfish effort.

I hope that explains it. I have no horse in this race.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's the opposite of selfish, he's publishing all of this findings to the internet for everyone to see and use.

It's not pretend, he's actually carrying out methodology, posting results and showing what's effective

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He is posting shitty anecdotes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (21 children)

No, you don't understand science.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

"But worthless data is still data!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

On the plus side, we now have at least some evidence that Bryan Johnson is on Lemmy! 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

His methodology is a joke. Throw everything against the wall and hope something sticks. He has no way of telling which of the many experiments is successful, he's a walking collection of confounding factors.

Also, if he were somehow able to find something that outperforms the null hypothesis, and against all odds, find out which treatment it actually is, he could just go drop the performative altruism, go private on it and try to monetize it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can simplify all of this just by saying you’re a big fan of the guy.

Literally everything in your reply is some extremely weird projection trying to invalidate another person’s opinion, and it’s incredibly strange.

Honestly, you come across as a person who hasn’t had much interaction with different opinions, perspectives, and personalities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not an option though. It's an attack. They're just attacking his personality, or calling him names. That's not opinion, that's just trying to smear the guy.

They're bad faith arguments.

Calling him a rich ar*ehole isn't an opinion. It's just being rude.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Why are you so confused by this? It’s not at all as difficult as you’re trying to make it seem.

You’re literally in a public forum trying to project your assertions about another person merely because you don’t agree with them. It’s perplexing, really.

You fail to understand one of the simplest characteristics of the human species, and that is they’re not actually required to behave as you believe they should, and many understandably won’t.

I reassert my original advice to you to broaden your horizons to endeavor to interact with others more and more meaningfully, so as to familiarize yourself with, and become much better accustomed to, the plethora of human personalities. You’ll thank me, I assure you.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Which people is he "trying to help"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Anyone and everyone that is interested in longevity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ooohh I'm sorry. "Himself" was the answer. Good game, thanks for playing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He's helping himself by publishing the results for everyone? That doesn't even make sense.

You're being obtuse and and I question your intentions in have a good faith argument.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Multiple people have already told why that "data" is useless. Why are you defending this guy so hard?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because he's trying to do something good. Why are you attacking him so hard?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Publicly giving out information about the erections of his 19-year-old son is doing something good?

You've got a lot of self reflection to do, friend.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He may think it helps others to publish his results. Or maybe it's just a publicity stunt. But neither of those motivations mean that the results will be worth a shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

So without knowing any of the results, they're invalid? That makes no sense

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

Experiments with a sample size of 1 are basically useless.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires don’t help people. They find ways to capitalize on people

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I’m open to having my mind changed if you can provide evidence of billionaires that accumulated their massive wealth by using non-exploitative practices

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

No, it follows logically. A person who helps people can and will never become a billionaire. Billionaires decide, on every day of their lives, to keep hording their immense wealth, where it serves literally no one, not even their own happiness, instead of donating it to help people who are literally suffering and dying from a lack of $100.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

I appreciate his data collection and experimentation, although plenty of the data is anecdotal and the number of simultaneous experiments in a complex system is gonna make parsing out protocols a chore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I agree with you and don’t know why people pile on against you. Is the guy cringey? Sure. Would it be more useful to humanity if he just donated his money to existing and more reputable research? For sure. But he’s just tinkering on himself, which is his right, and shares what he learns.

Is he misguided and a quack who may not learn anything? Maybe, but sometimes it’s the crazy folks who go against the grain that stumble on some good ideas.

Also, if anything he tries is interesting, yes of course he’s just a sample size of 1 - the idea is that other people could research it further.

(I think him roping other people in like his kid isn’t great)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

he's just a sample size of 1

And also he seems to be mixing "experiments" concurrently. How does he know what worked and what didn't if he has 30+ variables to account for all the time? xd

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Hehe, he won’t know, it’s a messy method. The experiment is “does the kitchen sink approach of a 100 zany things do any good or not.” I’d guess not, actually,

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

sometimes it’s the crazy folks who go against the grain that stumble on some good ideas

The chances of that happening in real life are close to nil. Sometimes, people who actually know what they're doing are mistaken or mischaracterized as crazy, but it's not all that hard to distinguish them from cranks. And even among those with the technical or scientific competency to actually do things right, people often make wrong hypotheses. Science is hard.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (9 children)

You can just say you have low intelligence and fundamentally do not understand the concept of peer reviewed reproducible science.

It’s shorter.

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