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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I'd like to move off from the shackles of the Google menace and transferring my Gmail related accounts over including steam but I'd like some solid advice of any well regarded and better alternatives (including open source if that is possible)

I did search but was unsure of what was best as I did hear some shoddy things about Proton.

Do you know anything that could be the "aegis 2fa" of email providers?

Thank you and have a good day/night.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The "shoddy things about Proton" were political, so unless politics is important to you in your choice of mail provider, Proton remains a good alternative.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bad news, privacy is sadly political. When you build your brand on "trust us with your sensitive information" it's less than ideal to align yourself with the "if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear from privacy invasion" party

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Can't remember what big platform provider, maybe Google, was giving out personal info to the government just because they were asked (i.e. no warrant given).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Proton has a business model where they want the user to put their eggs all in one basket. If you want that kind of userbase you need to leave your personal politics out of it. The problem isn’t that the CEO is right wing. It’s that he is very publicly right wing. And lastly supports a known huckster. All of this calls into question just for how long Proton will be secure before they are selling user info to the state. https://proton.me/legal/law-enforcement

Politics are very fucking important in terms of security for whistleblowers and dissidents. They are the canaries in the coalmine as far as personal liberties go.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, they comply with subpoenas and have assisted in the arrest of multiple people. https://proton.me/legal/law-enforcement

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Start defying court orders and see how long you can run a business that depends on having a bank account.

All commercial providers have to comply with subpoenas.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Email providers need to store messages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

All commercial providers have to comply with subpoenas.

I mistook what you wrote. Proton offer much more than just email.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Proton has some technical issues as well. Recently there was a day when email wasn't working at all for hours, maybe even half a day. I'm paying for their VPN sub and using it for years and not going to move in nearby future, but if I was picking something now I would carefully consider other options. Never heard about those mentioned in thread though, if they are new I wouldn't use them, I'd like something with good record track of at least one decade, better few decades.