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Luigi Mangione accepts $300K in donations for legal defense in murder case
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this post was submitted on 10 Feb 2025
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Good luck with that. Unless they legalize murder he's pretty much fucked.
Look up Gary Plauché. Dude put a bullet at close range into the temple of a guy being escorted by police, got a suspended sentence. But we can dream
Plauché didn't kill a rich person.
This guy is going to spend decades in prison unless he starts running for president.
People are advertising jury nullification, but that won't clear him for the same reason that a McDonald's employee would tell the cops where to find him.
I don't really understand lemmy's derision for this opinion.
It's the obvious outcome. Luigi might be a hero but he's going to jail.
Innocent until proven guilty.
"well akshually" comments are poorly received everywhere.
I think the random spike in interaction specifically to downvote opinions, counter to wannabe revolutionary fuel, are suspicious af.
TBH these luigi posts might just be a bunch of Tankies trying to convince us to start violence in the streets.
Luigi has not had, will never have, any impact on that system because instead of actually trying to change that system he threw his life, and his ivy league rich boy education, away over petty emotions.
But people, probably Tankies tbh, are cheering for more people to waste more lives and bullets and have no real impact.
He already has. Heath insurance executives have all scrambled to take down their information from web sites. Because everybody now knows that this is a shameful job to have rather than a job to brag about.
Wow! Such a HUGE win for the downtrodden and poor that are unable to afford basic medicine medical procedures!
I’m sure they’ll be overjoyed to see that heath insurance executives have taken down their names from the parts of their websites that no one cares about or visits. This is exactly what was needed to fix the broken system!
#winning.
Whether someone approves of this or not, the result of CEO's being more afraid to go to extreme measures to screw the public is something that is a good thing.
And as I said, so long as they removed their pictures and info from websites- it’s a win?
As has been said many times already, Luigi did nothing at all. At best, he sent a message to people who don’t have to, or care to listen, and inspired a bunch of internet activists to pump their fists in the air.
The result? No change.
Insurance companies are still doing exactly what they did before. And will continue to do so until actual action is taken.
And as I said, the result of CEO's being more afraid to screw the public sure is a win. And removing their pictures from a website proves they are afraid.
You don't know that at all. They may well have canceled some new measures to screw people over this.
CEO's to think twice before implementing that new scheme to screw people.
Just because you have no imagination does not mean that there was no impact. You just cannot see it. Or rather, you do not want to see anything.
I’d guarantee you they’re not afraid.
You cannot give us that guarantee. Removing their information from web sites is literal proof they are afraid.
Are you afraid every night when you lock your front door before you go to bed? Or is it just a precaution?
They’re not afraid.
There is no need for any "precaution" if you don't fear anything happening. I don't need to take any "precautions" in case the sun does not rise every morning.
Way to not answer the question. Do you lock your doors at night? Yes or no.
Okay, so Luigi's legacy is making health insurance CEOs safer in public?
Nope. It is making health insurance CEOs more afraid to screw the public.
Demonstrably not, though, because they're still screwing full throttle.
Nobody expected them to suddenly stop. But you do not know what crazy new schemes for "shareholder value" that they silently dropped.
With the way so many assholes worship this fuck you would expect any tangible effect after so many months passed. It's not like health insurance coverage from a medicaid provider is unknown black magic, there has gotta be stats to lean on if a change existed.
You and me have no way of knowing whether there has been any tangible effects or not. If they quietly kill a stupid idea because they know it will make people mad you aren't going to here about it.
I literally outlined exactly how we could know in the comment you replied to.
It is literally something that is 100% impossible for you to know.
And yet we somehow knew exactly how many claims were being denied before the assassination.
We have a 40-hour work week because unions literally fought for it. I'd guess most people don't want more violence but working through the system was pretty impossible even before fascists took complete control last month.
After a peaceful protest and hardlines negotions between GM and the United Auto Workers in 1937, legislators passed the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938. Many accredit the achievment to labor secretary Francis Perkins.
Guess what? None of that shit that Luigi pulled will ever have any such impact, if anything it will likely turn people away from movements that idolize him.
You don't think the peaceful protests were backed by the threat of union violence that had been regular up until the New Deal?
The media tried so hard to make people hate Luigi in December and it didn't work because everyone knows insurance companies murder for profit. Voting hasn't helped, the media is owned by oligarchs, most social media is too, and if you protest you either get ignored or beaten up by the cops.
It's not my first choice of action even now, but probably-Luigi killed a guy who was otherwise untouchable and the oligarchs flipped their shit. Abraham Lincoln's death gimped Reconstruction, MLK's death hurt the civil rights movement (and spurred nationwide riots causing passage of another civil rights act), Panthers leadership hurt their organization too.
If violence was so effective why did nothing change until the peaceful protest and union negotiations?
It's almost like getting people to actually engage in political discussions is more effective than hitting everything you don't like with a club. Who would have thunk it?
What, you think the Russians or Israel or some shit have it out for Luigi? Face it, you're not the revolution just because you idolize a murderer.
What lead up to the 1938 labor laws was in fact peaceful protests and negotiations.
I'm not saying the time period lacked strife and similar events, but there was an immediate cause effect cited by all sides of the issue from the specific peaceful protests and auto workers union.
Nothing will ever have that impact until Dems win and win big again like in the 1930's.
My fear is he's going to be used to instigate the social unrest needed for project 2025 to reach it's goal of suspension of habeus corpus by June 30th. That's end game and the way they're concentrating messaging against the judicial branch right now means they're grinding toward the 6 month milestone right on schedule.
The fact the most famous dems aren't saying the above is chilling.
What if we all got too comfy with our rights and values during lockdown and the tree is about to be shaken so violently that we'll all be thankful for a low wage job in a few years? I guarantee that's a bipartisan goal.
Stay peaceful folks, the future demands it.
There could be a legitimate conspiracy, for sure, but the Dems aren't manufacturing this hell. The Dems wanted to tax the rich and socialize healthcare, we've just never believed them enough to give them the power.
Biden did expand Medicaid and removed Medical Debt from credit history, and it's a core DNC platform because they attempted it when we gave them 58 senate seats but the Independents didn't fall in line so we don't have it.
It takes 60 votes.
Lol ok theres no conversing with you if you just start spouting lies
They first need to prove he's the murderer
Likely yes, but everyone has a right to a trial by a jury of their peers and, who knows?
Political discourse is really poor in this country and they need all 12 to convict.