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European officials are preparing a multibillion-dollar defense package to bolster regional security and support Ukraine, announced by German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock at the Munich Security Conference.

The package, potentially valued up to 700 billion euros, will fund military training, arms deliveries, and security guarantees amid concerns over Russian aggression and diminishing U.S. contributions to NATO.

The move follows calls for Europe to boost its own defense spending while U.S.-Russian talks, which exclude Ukraine and Europe, on ending the Ukraine conflict continue.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Whoever spend billions in war instead useful things is the aggressor

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is your point that Russia should be allowed to steam roll through Ukraine? Europe shouldn't help their allies and neighbors defend themselves? Standing up to bullies is worse than being a bully?

Genuinely curious if you even have a point to make at all. I hope I'm just interpreting you wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nobody should help authoritarian governments and nobody should sell weapons to them. Ukranian people and the ukranian government are two different things, same goes for every country.

Standing up to bullies is worse than being a bully?

Nobody is standing up to shit, russians are chilling in saudi arabia docked next to americans yachts bought with money from the military industry.

Stand up against useless wars and military spending

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-preparedness-the-road-to-universal-slaughter

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Stand up against useless wars and military spending

Meanwhile, read about Ukrainian anarchists building drones and sending supplies for their comrades in army.

They know: if you get Putin's regime deployed on yourself, your chances for peaceful activism tumble down to nothing - you can't even hold a blank sheet of paper.

https://takku.net/article.php/20250106233015550

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-the-european-war-and-the-international-workers-organization

World governments don't care about ukrainians the same way they don't care about children in gaza getting murdered. They don't care about democracy either as they are in bed with saudi arabia and other dictatorships.

Watch out when you ear about "anarchists" fighting along side authoritarian governments because that's something anarchists don't do by definition.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is this a joke? Sorry so much time living in clown world has made it hard to tell.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I already have him flagged as a troll, so you can just ignore him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

In a world where everyone is brainwashed by state propaganda advocating for peace and military spending cut is considered a joke.

[–] Semjaza 10 points 2 months ago

So since adjusting by PPP Russia has spent over a trillion in USD on the war, that makes Russia the aggressor?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have to spend money on weapons in order to have the privilege of sitting peacefully with those weapons rather than dying on your enemies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Peace is not achieved by spending trillions in war. Look around yourself what's happening there's no peace.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This phrase didn't age well in the past 2000 years

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It absolutely did.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

In all of history peace has only ever been achieved by being strong enough to deter would be conquerors. Without deterrence Russia would crush Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Ukraine whilst threatening all of Europe. The US would take Canada, Greenland. NK would take South Korea. China would take Taiwan.

The world has never been free of evil powerful men who would take from their neighbors. What you think looks like peace has only ever been most of the situations being stable based in large part on people's willingness to murder people who would come to murder and take from them. If you aren't actually willing to fight you won't find yourself safe very long.

Military aid between nations creates stability by drastically increasing the cost of attacking one party lest an empire expand by taking one bite at a time and becoming strong enough to threaten larger neighbors in the process.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

So, the US and Russia are the aggressors, so, they need to be repelled, right?

Which costs money.