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Trump's envoy Steve Witkoff, in a CNN interview with Jake Tapper, failed to specify any Russian concessions in a potential Ukraine peace deal despite detailing demands on Ukraine.

After claiming a "friendship" with Putin, Witkoff spoke vaguely about "territorial" and "economic" concessions from both sides. He also claimed a U.S.-Ukraine deal on raw earth minerals would be signed soon.

When confronted with Russian state TV footage suggesting Trump’s stance aligns with Putin’s, Witkoff insisted diplomacy requires communication.

His remarks fueled concerns over Trump’s approach to Russia and Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Meanwhile Zelensky is saying he'll give up the presidency in exchange for NATO membership.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn9vx01evp9o

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is that a concession? I don't think he actually wants to be president anymore.

Don't get me wrong, it's the correct "deal" to make - it's the most overt declaration he can make to those who claim he wants to be dictator for life - I just think it's probably a win/win for him.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Win win win to be honest. It's just further proof he doesn't want to be the dictator he's accused of being.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

And further proof he's the much better diplomat/politician than those who exclude him.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is that a concession?

It's absolutely a concession, and a very big one too. It's a concession to the Trump allegations that Zelenskyy is a dictator. And this bullshit argument was given as one of the reasons he wasn't invited to the talks in Saudi Arabia.

I don’t think he actually wants to be president anymore.

Doesn't change the fact that it's a very big concession.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It might be the correct deal, but it worries me. I can only imagine the people saying he wants to be a dictator are those that want a Putin style election to install another puppet. I know they have to have elections at some point - it's just a worry!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I highly doubt any Russian aligned party or candidate would win any office. Doubtful they'd survive the election in a place like Mariupol or Sebastopol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Winning’s overrated

Wonder how we can protect exit polling - that’s how we know Maduro stole so big.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I mean the Ukrainian people are currently fighting against a Russian invasion. This could be a problem in a decade or so. But not anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Trump will agree as long as he quits first then pull the rug from under Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even the EU vasals have nothing to say.
Blindly follow the leader, jump when they say. Even let them blow up their cheap gasline and ruin their economy.
Not one peep. And now they are surprised they get no respect? LOL.
What does this guy think he has of weight?
His new US master will decide for him, that's what happen when you allow your country to be used as a proxy.
As if there weren't enough examples of US 'friends' thrown under the bus.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Whoah, you get paid to spout all that or are you volunteering your time?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Frankly, it doesn't matter how they put it. Any comment that is not praising Zelensky as the most noble leader of the free world or something, will be mercilessly criticized. They might as well just have their fun.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That comment was not criticism of any of Zelensky's positions or choices. It was word salad of Russian talking points.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was a critical comment about Zelensky. What I said was that anything anyone says here that is not praising Zelensky, will be criticized with a NATO talking point passion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What NATO talking points were used in my response or any of the responses to that comment?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Having a different point of view does not mean they are being paid. Are you being paid by Ukraine or NATO? That is a rhetorical question, I don't assume, not even suggest, you are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So no NATO talking points then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Nor Russian, just people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is demonstrably false with a mere glance at the news headlines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it's demonstrably false then I await your demonstration of falsehood instead of you just saying stuff

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

see, you've got nothing, as always