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[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Step up, EU. It's on you now that the US are traitors.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

As an American I'd like to apologize for the shit show my country currently is.

I've never felt shame like this.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

You’ve had many opportunities to feel shame like this, starting with the unconditional support & complicity of the U.S. government in the genocide in Gaza…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Y’all must have not been around for the Iraq invasion. I stopped being a Republican when my party lied its way into an unnecessary conflict. Iraq only had what Cheney and Reagan sold them in the 80’s. To fight Iran. It’s insane to me for people to forget this important point. We almost brought back the draft for that war. I heard from many leadership individuals that were from my home town. That it was coming any day. Thank god it didn’t. But they abused the troops by forcing them to do extra terms in the conflict zone. No one remembers that either it seems. The GOP was fine forcing service members back into contracts for another 3 years.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn’t forget about the Iraq war, I was in the streets protesting against it. It was painfully obvious the US administration was lying about WMDs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

His point, I think, is the line of whataboutist thinking that got the conversation to this point, from the OP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That was wrong too. Before my time though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

Supporting the genocide in Gaza was my first deep shame for my country, and I'm not a spring chicken.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

To be fair that's a proxy war between the US and the Arab world.

It was always going to end one way. People are mostly desensitized and the Oct events pushed the majority off the fence. Which was kinda the point. It's a rats nest and anyone trapped there is unfortunately walking dead trapped between the gears of globalism.

American voters had zero say in it really. I'm not sure anyone can do anything really. It's like trying to hold back the sea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

It is only this bad because the US has provided nearly unconditional military, diplomatic and financial support to Israel for 75+ years despite them committing numerous war crimes, invading all of their neighbors and hindering countless peaceful processes. Israel can’t even defend itself without the assistance of foreign countries as we have seen last year when they needed the US, France, Jordan and others to step in when Iran sent a few missiles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually really don't care about Gaza.

Don't get me wrong, I don't support what they're doing over there.... But.... It's a bunch of religious people fighting over what they think is holy land... When holy Land is in contention they're always killing each other over it...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Do better. It’s a very powerful country backed by the US who is invading many countries while committing numerous war crimes including genocide and ethnic cleansing. If you don’t care about Gaza don’t pretend to care about human rights and the rule of law.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Start doing something about it, please.