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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I really don't get it either. Trump can say something and his supporters will believe him no matter what.

He could tell a supporter their child is a demon, shoot the kid in the face and they would thank him for it.

I have no idea what to do about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Trump can say something and his supporters will believe him no matter what.

Liberals do the same shit with their politicians. BlueMAGA has the same capacity for reasoning and insight that MAGA does.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are not well informed whatsoever. Democrats turn on bad actors in their party in a heartbeat. To their own detriment even. Look where Al Franken is right now.

Go read more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Al franken was low hanging fruit. The oligarchy will never turn on their own, which includes trump.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do you know what an Oligarchy is? Follow up question: could you let Bernie, Cortez, and Crockett know? They don't seem to be up to date on this either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I and the sheepdogs you mentioned know what an oligarchy is. The difference is they only claim other groups are an oligarchy, implying they are not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you can really make the argument subjective when the people in power are billionaires and Fox News personalities. What in the world...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The billionaires have always been in power, regardless if its behind the scenes like it's been in the past or in the spotlight like they are now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Spotlight? 16 are in his cabinet and influencing his every move. What are you even talking about?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It was literally fucking Citibank that picked Obama and Biden's cabinets, they've always been the ones pulling the strings. Now they're pulling the strings in the open

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

You can do a search for citibank picks Obama's cabinet and choose your source. Do the same for citibank picks biden's cabinet and pick your sources.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Do they? Sure, Bernie supporters love to sniff his farts, but they’re not making him the center of their conspiracy theories and there’s no indication they’d believe him if he said 2+2=5. And no one’s getting this excited over Harris, Biden, Warren, Buttigieg, etc.

We need to stop pretending both sides are basically the same. They’re not. They were in the 90s, when it was Clinton vs. Bush. They were pre-Trump, with people like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. But Trump is in a league of his own, and there is not a liberal equivalent of MAGA right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I was told by liberals that I should stop worrying about Gazan children for more than a year while Biden and Democrats happily gave Israel the money and guns to kill them

Now they tell me Trump is bad for his support of Israel

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Democrat voters were the only ones denouncing Israel.

The choice was made clear in all social media and publicly by all Democrat and Republican politicians.

Vote Democrat if you want to support Palestinians and condemn Israel while continuing to allow Israel to buy weapons.

Vote Republican if you want to exterminate all Palestinians. Trump promised in speeches to wipe out all Palestinians.

You might not like either choice but the two sides were not the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wha?

Any time I criticized Biden admin for giving arms to Israel, I was told "he's trying to end it" or "just vote Harris"

I criticized Harris for not making herself meaningfully different from Biden on the genocide issue. People here told me to shut up and stop complaining about it. People here even said I was in a minority for caring so much about Gaza and that it didn't matter that much

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As I said, he was trying to end it but without stopping the sale of arms. It's not like Israel even needs any those weapons to starve Palestine.

And when the alternative is Trump who promised to exterminate all Palestinians, yes you should shut up because it made fence sitters not vote for Harris.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So he was trying to end it by not withholding the one thing that gave him leverage over the situation?

Listen to yourself

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I already said they didn't need the arms. It wasn't leverage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So the Biden administration just gave them stuff they didn't need??? For what???

"Hey guys, please stop killing Gazan children. Pretty please? Oh, if you don't stop, I'll have to keep sending you weapons and billions in cash right up to my last week in office. Don't worry, I have an army of idiots on the internet who will defend me even when it makes no sense."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden didn't give anything. Israel bought it. Biden only allowed the sale to go through. Congress appropriates funds, not the President.

And again you are only reaffirming my statement.

Democrats: We support Palestine and will try to stop Israel but won't stop weapon sales to do it.

Republicans: We will exterminate all Palestinians.

That's not, "Both sides are the same."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

"Biden didn't give anything" is not true. You just said it yourself l: "he allowed sale to go through"

Yes, money is approved by Congress. That's the point. The administration and the Congress, both parties, are bought and paid for by AIPAC.

No other country gets no-strings-attached cash and weapons from the US.

Republicans didn't exterminate Gazan children; a Democratic administration enabled Israel and tried to ban the only social media platform that allowed people to honestly talk about it. Joe Biden and the Democrat leadership have children's blood on their hands

You're actually just lying. Fuck off with this bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"he allowed sale to go through"

Following Congress is doing his job. Part of Trump's dictatorship is ignoring Congress such as when he fired federal staff whose money was determined by Congress.

Republicans didn't exterminate Gazan children

Trump promised it. He has continued that promise.

Joe Biden and the Democrat leadership have children's blood on their hands

You keep reaffirming what I said.

Democrats: We will support Palestine but won't stop selling weapons.

Republicans: We promise to exterminate Palestine.

Your Maga hat is slipping into view.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Biden and Blinken happily continued supplying the weapons even while State Department personnel expressed concerns. Stop acting like Biden was a good guy. "I am a Zionist" is an actual Biden quote https://www.propublica.org/article/israel-gaza-america-biden-administration-weapons-bombs-state-department

Stop trying to turn this into a Trump v. Biden issue. It isn't. US policy is always appeasing Israel. Biden was just the latest in line.

Again, any attempt to shield Biden from responsibility is a lie. Stop with your partisan Biden defense. You're defending war crimes and genocide 🤡

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This entire argument is Trump vs Biden. It's the only point. You are full Maga with your, don't talk about Trump, it's only Biden that's bad.

You aren't fooling anyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OK 🤡

So genocide is OK if Democrats are enabling it? Why don't you just say so?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I didn't say that. When you said Democrats had blood on there hands, I agreed.

I have said over and over and over that Democrats support Palestine but won't stop weapons. There's other leverage.

Trump promised extermination.

You prefer the complete extermination of Palestine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/10/child-deaths-surge-amid-gazafication-of-west-bank-report-says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-hundreds-palestinians-killed-israeli-strikes-gaza-rcna196842

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That’s not the equivalent at all. That’s pro-Zionism, and has been the US party line for decades. Biden even admitted that back in the 1980s.

How on Earth are you equating that to MAGA?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hi totally off topic but I saw your username. are you a fan of Nobody Likes Onions? Are you following the Nick Rekieta drama with Steel Toe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Ah, well, it's all very dorky but compelling if you're into niche YouTube podcast drama

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was, in this very community

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

As Republicans keep shifting to the right, Democrats fill the void just left by Republicans. Democrats are BlueMAGA, the only difference is a Republican will tell us what they are gonna do, then do it. Democrats talk about opposition, but end up enabling right wing policy and lock it in place with their ratchet effect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

We need to stop pretending both sides are basically the same. They’re not.

Only lazy, ignorant people who think they are sounding smart say this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Liberals I know are spitting in Schumer's face. When Eric Adams committed a crime, he needed to beg maga to help, not "bLuEmAGa". The blue was bringing him to court no matter what. No one loved Biden no one loves a majority of liberal politicians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Right now they are spitting in Schumer's face but will quickly forget that in a month or so, and will gladly cast a vote for him when he's up for reelection. And anyone bringing up what he's done will be labeled a bot, trying to get Republicans elected, or whatever the current buzz words are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They really don't. I am a leftist, not a liberal. But i see liberals constantly denounce and get angry at democrats. Bluemaga is not a thing... Of course there are a couple of liberals that defend biden or whatever. There are idiots in every group whether its politics, anime, music, gaming, whatever.

But it's not a THING like with maga. Maga will die for their fuhrer. They believe everything he says. Trump is their hero and savior.

You're being ridiculous on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Blue MAGA isn't a thing but "Blue No Matter Who (unless it's Bernie)" is a thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Oh definitely. And i do get it. Not that i agree but i do get it. When its either 100% or 70% shit, and its the only 2 choices there are, then obviously people will vote for the 70% shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They may get performative angry, but end up supporting them when it's election time. BlueMAGA is very much a thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah. It’s much better to sit idly by while Trump destroys the country, gives Israel any weapons they want with no restrictions, makes it illegal to be trans, erases PoC and Women from the history of our country, and sells Ukraine to Russia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

...BlueMAGA...

Oof.