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Texas is a country. Now imagine $40 billion a year of various media and disinfo agents repeating that ad nauseum in every place they can literally all the time for nearly 50 years now, all so China can't take revenge against Japan.
You'd get annoyed and probably ban it since that's the easiest way to get your enemy to waste money forever.
Taipei is an autonomous region, like Xinjiang or Tibet. As long as they don't grossly violate federal law they get to stay autonomous.
This is the biggest crock of shit ever. Go to Taiwan, experience it for yourself. Go to their museums and talk to their people. You will find a democratic nation with its own values and beliefs. Then take your ignorant ass over to Texas and repeat the same drivel you said here and see what happens.
As some who moved away from Taipei, no they are not
What makes you say that?
Check their Modlogs lol:
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What makes you say that?
Ohh yeah lick that Chinese boot, lick it harder. Mmmhhh.
Better China than the West. At least slavery is banned in China.
As long as you're not Muslim.
China has more mosques than the US, and Xinjiang is majority Muslim.
They also have more concentration erh, I mean, re-education camps. For now, at least.
Depends on whether you think a baseline American prison is a concentration camp.
If they are, being instruments of racial and economic genocide, America has nearly 10x as many concentration camps as China with less than a quarter of the population. That's not really a fair comparison though, given how much China loves centralization, so it's probably better to talk about the number of people involved.
Current estimates place about 1-1.5 million Uyghurs in the camps. "Regular" prisoners account for another 1.7 million. There are currently 1.9 million US prisoners.
If we go ahead and give potential credit to all Chinese prisoners as victims of political and ethnic persecution as we have for American prisoners (as ACAB), that still leaves America with a wildly disproportionate prison population per capita. While China openly imprisons political dissidents and ethnic/religious minorities at nearly an equivalent rate to "regular" crimes.
So, do you honestly think we currently have fewer concentration camps in a way that matters? What's it going to look like once we really start going?
I don't think a baseline American prison is a concentration camp. Gitmo for sure, but a normal prison not really. There's bias in the system, but you don't go to jail for just being black/latino/gay/muslim (yet). And AFAIK they don't steal your organs (again, yet).
https://eji.org/news/nixon-war-on-drugs-designed-to-criminalize-black-people/
Don't forget it's a crime to be homeless now. Look forward to that.
As I said, there's bias in the system, but for now you're not put in prison just for being black. There's an attempt at legitimacy. Acab, driving while black, stop and frisk, etc, not only the war on drugs... but there's still a big gap to "go to jail for being Muslim and since you have two kids we're sterilizing you".
About homelessness being a crime, doesn't surprise me in the least. My mind was blown when I learned "loitering" is a legal term. It is illegal to "be somewhere", even if are not homeless. However you keep your kidneys in the morning, so... yay?
Not really. Again according to the UN report nothing China has done is special compared to just normal American prisons. Except fewer uighurs as a percentage of their population were ever imprisoned than just black men as a percentage of the total black population.
If what you believe happened in Xinjiang is genocide, America is currently commiting genocide on twice the scale for the past 120 years.
I'd love to see that UN report. Please link it, or at least copy-paste the section comparing the two. I want to see how they sterilize and how they steal organs from Americans.
Why do you have to pick one or the other? Can we not recognize that the governments of western nations and the government of China are all evil institutions that cause far more harm than they ever could benefit?
'recognize' is a weird word for 'delude'.
China raised more people out of poverty than any other government in history, and certainly more than any non government group. The amount of good they've done is truly amazing, with absolute minimal harm when honestly compared with their western counterparts.
Would it be better to not have any institution and have automated luxury gay space communism? Sure. But we're never getting there from a western society.
Again, both are shitty. In fact, not just both, but all. All hierarchical power structures are just plain evil. I'm not interested in parsing which evil is more evil. The Chinese government is an evil institution. The US government is an evil institution.
That's a fine ideal to strive towards, an communism, including the Chinese government hopes to get there some day.
China hasn't been a communist country in a long time. That was the whole point of the Deng reforms.
China is still communist even if they allow non essential industries to engage in capitalism. The entire point of dengism is to prevent ussr syndrome and avoid collapse and temptation due to stupid shit. Over 60% of the economy by GDP including all essential services, is owned by the people. The private sector exists solely to grow technological and industrial capacity, and is shrinking year by year.
FTFY
If the state represented the people, why does the Chinese government kill workers who try to organize so damn much? It's because the state =/= the people. What you described is just capitalism where the state is one of the capitalist class. The difference with the US is that the US government is owned by the capitalist class rather than being one of it.
Incorrect, the barrier to entry for the government is much lower in China than say, the US or 'democratic' states. China doesn't arbitrarily kill citizens, their police aren't even armed. What does happen is they're arrested and sentenced to education and reform, which does include how to redress complaints. All public workers are unionized in China, and there is no barrier nor suppression of private unions in the private sector.
The state in China objectively isn't the capitalist class they don't own capital. With public ownership of the means of production (in any public sector industry) it is by definition socialist. By every definition socialist.
Your confusion on this matter comes from the fact western sources do not publish how the Chinese government works or how easy it is to become a member and participate. The state equals the people, anyone can join he government and take on the boring admin work, there are checks at every level to reduce corruption and no one person ever has absolute power. Technically "the evil dictator Xi Jinping" could be ousted with a single vote, or multiple lower regional votes. The same is true for all positions. Appointments are democratically placed, so corruption is minimal. 400 million people would have to be unified and absolutely corrupt for the state to be corrupt. And that's really hard to do. The US can't even get 100 million people to agree to any single thing.
It's only socialist if you accept the framing that the state (ie the government) is the manifestation of the will of the people. This is demonstrably untrue in China given how regularly they suppress protest movements and attempts by workers to organize. They are NOT the will of the people. They are the will of the party, which has always been the case in every state communist country that has ever existed.
And I don't get my information on China from western media sources. I get it from people I know who live in China and from my own experiences in China.
Replace "China" with "The US" here and it sounds exactly like it comes out of a grade school civics textbook in the US describing the American political system. This is the exact same line every single elected government around the world uses to describe how democratic they are.
What do you gain from oppressing others?
Is Texas oppressed?
I'd probably say Texas is the oppressor by seeing how racist they are
(Yes, but since you clearly have the brain capacity of a toddler I guess I will be more direct.) What do you gain from oppressing Taiwan?
How is Texas oppressed by being a state?
As far as Taipei, it's not oppressed, the opposite. It's allowed to control itself under the guidance of the government, as it always has. That's the definition of an autonomous region.
Texas: They aren’t even allowed to get basic healthcare there, or have a gender.
Taiwan: sure, that’s why literally nobody complains about CCP presence….oh wait. Are you usually in the habit of denying reality and ignoring your own eyes?
Texas is oppressing itself on the first part, but goddamnit that’s their right … the morons.
For Texas, that's their choice. They actively choose that, and have the freedom to do so. The US isn't making them. They aren't oppressed.
As far as Taipei, in any group of people you'll always have some people complaining about something. There are fewer people pushing for an independent Taiwan than there is pushing for an independent Texas.
Texas is willingly part of the USA.
Any real secessionist movement is a farce.
Taiwan on the other hand is not part of China, it’s a nation of its own and has as much claim to mainland China as the mainland does to Taiwan.
Taiwan being a democracy makes it the easy choice.
Tibet should be free too, but unfortunately doesn’t have the backing of Nuclear Powers to keep it so.
So you understand that the secessionist movement in Texas is a farce that never has majority support but despite that also being the case in Taiwan you don't believe it?
The independence party in Taiwan's local government never gets anywhere and has never had majority support. The current Taiwanese government does not support independence.
Also no. The last time Tibet was free that had institutionalized child sex slaves for members of their theocratic government. Those monsters should never be in power again, and now that their former slaves are free and members of a country that treats them equally, they agree.
It's just former aristocrats that again owned child sex slaves, like the dalai lama, that think tibet should be "free". But I guess it's only natural people from the country with no law against child marriages would support Tibets return to their old society.
This is just pure Chinese state propaganda. Taiwan has been an independent country since 1949.
So independent no country in earth recognizes it as such, not even Taiwan.