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[–] [email protected] 102 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Is nobody concerned that illegal experiments on babies only gets you 3 years?

Maybe they were Uyghurs so it was classified as "property damage" in Chinese law.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (4 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Jiankui_affair

Laws were changed after this incident:

In 2020, the National People's Congress of China passed Civil Code and an amendment to Criminal Law that prohibit human gene editing and cloning with no exceptions

So, in case you actually meant that weird ignorant remark you made about Uyghurs, the answer is no and no.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

Lemmitors downvoting you because actually learning about the case conflicts with their "cHiNa BaD" circlejerk.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh shit someone tell the ~~fascist scum~~ liberal toads that its actually blue on blue, this guy was working for a honky kong universty!!!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for the information -- good to know. I assume that like American law, he couldn't be punished for something that wasn't illegal when he did it?

Regarding the Uyghur comment the other guy made, definitely a bit tasteless but I don't think it's that ignorant given the genocide China perpetrated against them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

What he did was illegal. Even without specific laws about genetic modification or cloning, he did perform experiments with babies without the necessity approvals from ethics and safety, without informed consent from the parents and likely misusing funds allocated to other research.

3 years is still to short.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It was a joke... You don't get to jail for experimenting with slaves in China.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Be careful, you might get banned from lemmy dot ml for hatespeech against dictatorships.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Hong kongs a dictatorship? You know, the place this doctor was working?

Well observed, its been an apartheid state since its inception as a colony to the UK.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone who opposes dictatorships is a Nazi or a liberal, who are also Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nazis, by definition, do not oppose dictatorships. Not sure where you got that idea, but it certainly wasn't a level-headed assessment of history.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The guy you're responding to is a liberal doing a piss poor parody of a ML.

You can't do a good parody if you get angry before the punchline, or don't understand the thing you're parodying in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I assume you guys get that a lot?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yup. It's actually crazy how anticommunist propaganda creates so many people who are so confidently wrong about things that are so easy to investigate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Lol it's so anti-communist to be anti-tankie. /s

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I read it in Das Kapital, by Joseph Stalin. Don't you liberal anarkiddies read theory?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

It's literal misinformation, so it probably should be removed, yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why did you self censor by saying "dot"?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I wrote that on my phone's touch keyboard, and I didn't want to use \. to escape the dot character to avoid autohotlinking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I've blocked that instance, but if they need more material to ban me I have it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dang, you can really just pull shit straight out of your ass and people will believe it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, .ml users do indeed tend to be more concerned with fact-checking and saying things that are actually true as compared to flat.world, thank you for pointing that out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Asking out of curiosity what does that "ml" mean?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Supposed to mean ~~"machine-learning"~~ Mali, but the developers of Lemmy (whose instance it is) are using it to mean "Marxism-Leninism", which is a misnomer invented by Stalin. While ml has some non-tankie leftists, that instance is infamous because of them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

It's actually the TLD for Mali, not explicitly related to machine learning, or leftism. That's mainly what it's used for though, outside of Mali.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Marxism leninism, it's a political ideology, subset of communism. Basically the communists that love USSR, China, Cuba, etc. They love running propaganda about how these authoritarian governments did nothing wrong and how all criticism of them is just negative propaganda by the West.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you kind stranger. Now I get the .ml hate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Always funny how the right winger .wolders love to say shit about us, but are too scared to face the reality since they just defederated from us.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The devil is in the details....

You are likely thinking (as I am) that he implanted robotic arms on babies but he may have just rubbed sage oil on them for all we know

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

He used CRISPR to make babies immune to HIV.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No, he inserted a gene that is associated with resistance to HIV, but is also associated with increased risk of some cancers. He did this without informed consent, he did this without running it by an ethics board, he did this without knowing whether it would work or not.

Let’s stop pretending that he’s a good guy that just magically made HIV immune babies.

Edit: it also didn’t work. The babies have genes both with and without the mutation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We also don't know if it was just that gene that was altered, or if there are other effects. Modern gene editing isn't so precise that we can edit just the gene we want. A lot of genes with similar sequences as the target can also be affected.

It's basically like firing a shotgun at the house they live in. You might hit the one you want, but you may also hit other unrelated genes in the process.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for the info

definitely on the evil side considering he probably planed to infect them to test his theories

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Nope, he had no plans to infect them. The babies had parents who were HIV-positive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did not have baby zombie apocalypse on my Bingo card, but there ya go

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Depends how successful the experiment is (and probably on what the goal is as well).

If he'd been testing the effects of grass vs grain feed on human fat marbling, I'd imagine the sentence would have been a little more severe

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