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Federal prosecutors have filed charges against at least two people for allegedly damaging Tesla property.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)

This whole time I can't help but think...

What's the point in burning unsellable cars that take up real estate on sales lots?

If you burn them Elmo gets the MSRP (probably more) from insurance, if you don't burn them, no one is buying it anyways. The few that are, use the 0% down 0% apr loans and Tesla loses money on those.

Setting a Tesla on fire in 2025 makes Musk more money than buying one.

Let them rot on the lot.

Quick edit:

If you want something that will help, organize protests at the manufacturing plants.

We don't need to protest stores that have zero buyers anyway...

But shutting down and restarting production lines is insanely expensive. And Tesla workers are almost guaranteed to hate their job already. That's the weak point, that's where pressure should be applied.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Repeated targeting of them for vandalism makes them a liability for insurance companies. If the insurance rates go up or they become uninsurable the sales numbers will decline. No need sales plus less on the road paying the ridiculous subscription fees or paying for charging means less money for Tesla.

Plus, Nazis can fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Bruv...

Are you under the impression for insurance for a manufacturer on their existing inventory is the same thing as a random person's insurance on a personal vehicle?

Edit:

And the liability to insurance companies has existed for a long time...

Tesla locks down their supply chains, there's no option besides "manufacter parts" and Tesla sucks at making them.

So a fender bender could be months to get fixed, and insurance may be on the hook for rentals for that period on top of higher than average repair costs, which leads to Teslas being marked "totaled" when others would be repaired ...

Like, I agree in spirit, but you just don't understand what's happening...

But if you set a Tesla on fire at a Tesla lot...

You just made Elon more money than if you bought it.

That's important for people to understand

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The cost to insure a Tesla Model 3 went up 30 percent last year.

I'd absolutely love to understand how these protests raised insurance rates for the year before the protests started.

Cuz buddy, that's basically time travel, and it would be fascinating to learn how it works....

But what's probably more likely, is the stuff I just explained, and your article agreed with me on.

I have zero idea if you're agreeing with me intentionally tho, because you literally just put a link with zero context.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you start your statement with that played the fuck out term, no one will ever take you seriously

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now listen here old chap...

Sometimes people listen to Drill in the mornings to stay awake and codeswitching isn't always a conscious behavior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There’s your problem. Drill tempo is way too slow for waking up, try some hardcore punk where they’re double timing 150-180 bpms

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

We need more punks, but we need more of other stuff too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhIoUxOisM

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Insurance isn't some magic thing that removes all risk from a situation. Go out to reputable sources to find some very long dry reading on how insurance works. It is basically a form of gambling on the part of the insurance company. The house doesn't like to lose.

In the context of dealerships:

  • Insurance won't pay out the full value of the vehicle. It will be a depreciated cost. This means less money will be recovered than would have been made if it had been sold. This payout will also depreciate further depending on the age of the vehicle/how long it has been on the lot.
  • Insurance payout on building repairs will also not likely completely cover the expense.
  • Insurance will raise premiums or cancel insurance contracts if the occurrence is too frequent. Once insurance becomes unattainable, the losses explode.
  • Not having insurance on the property can affect any mortgages or loans, including leading to foreclosure of the property. The banks want to make sure they get their value out of the property.

In the context of owners:

  • Insurance rates are already higher due to problems with the vehicles (30% last year), and there are already plenty of articles about how they'll be going up more due to the ongoing vandalism.
  • The cars in some of the cases that were destroyed were at a repair shop, so those are cars already owned by people. The sale was already completed. (Which does bring question to targeting, but a symbol is a symbol at the end of the day, and it isn't the same as killing humans.)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You might find this interesting:

https://piainsagency.com/car-dealer-insurance-coverage/

But you'd definitely find it informative.

It's like Red Green used to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

High-crime areas can also drive up premiums due to increased risks of theft or vandalism.

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