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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And just like that, worrying about climate change has become a thing of the past.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ridiculous statement, you can hate Elon and Tesla, while caring about climate change. You may not be aware there are other electric vehicles not associated with Nazis. Right now, Elon is pushing for changes that increase climate change by supporting the Trump administration. Dealing any kind of social and monetary blow to Elon and his companies would hopefully discourage him from continuing his actions.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Forget climate change, have you considered the amount of toxic chemicals released into the atmosphere by burning down even one of these vehicles?

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is the dumbest take I swear. If it's that bad to burn ONE, what do you think happens when you take the richest dude on the planet who directs slaves to extract the metals from the earth to make many more of them a year, the supply chain for which is incredibly polluting, and many of them just randomly do that themselves, requiring THOUSANDS of gallons of water to put out each time, and put him in charge of US govt's spending priorities?

Spoiler alert:

It's not good (etc.)

Forget climate change

Lol what?

And just like that, worrying about climate change has become a thing of the past.

To you, apparently. Not those of us who have our eyes and minds open and are actually trying to make positive change.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago

So you’re saying EVs are bad for the environment in general, or is it only when they’re produced by a particular person?

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even if 1k burned unnecessarily, it's No where near as impactful to the environment as the bad decision making a country with a GDP of 27 trillion USD will be making. We passed the largest bill to deal with climate change (Inflation Reduction act) the world has ever seen and now that may all get thrown away because of Donald, financially backed and influenced by the CEO of Tesla. Not only will Donald not fight to combat climate change, his is actively encouraging it by implementing policies that encourage fossil fuel use.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So in order to combat Trump’s lack of interest in reducing fossil fuel use, the solution is to destroy the most popular brand of electric cars, because the owner is of said electric car brand is helping Trump increase fossil fuel use, thus actively shooting himself in the foot.

Make it make sense.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nobody said Elon is smart.

Are you denying that Donald is encouraging fossil fuel usage and by extension worsening climate change? Are you denying that Elon chose to financially support the candidate that would worsen fossil fuel usage?

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How does Elon profit from that?

[–] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Quoting directly from the article:

Does it help Tesla?

It is unclear whether selling carbon credits provides much-needed relief to Tesla compared to its rivals and even slows down other projects on the timeline.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay', let me ELI5:

Elon mainly makes money from selling electric vehicles, doesn't he?

Electric vehicles are sold as a climate-friendly alternative to internal combustion engines.

If Trump is vehemently anti-EV and pro-ICE, what the hell does Elon have to gain from supporting him? He's a capitalist after all, isn't he? Why would he throw away his life's work on supporting the one candidate who promises to ruin his entire business model?

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Donald is pro Tesla (now) not pro EV and definitely is not against combating climate change. With many government incentives for purchasing EV's going away, Donald placing tariffs on Chinese products ( oh wow, BYD is Chinese, and sells extremely cheap EVs that people would prefer to buy over Teslas when you just look at the cost), Donald potentially putting tariffs on other electric vehicles from foreign countries (well look at that, now Tesla is one of the few non tariffed options along with other american electric cars), and with Teslas were being hawked at the white house, yeah it makes a lot of sense for Elon to support the most corruptible candidate.

Elon doesn't care about the environment, he only cares about getting his companies ahead. Kamala wouldn't give HIM special treatment, and it would be hard for him to convince her to do so. Donald just needs some money and he'll gladly talk about how "everything's computer" inside a tesla in front of the white house.

And this is really just a distraction from your main point. Destroying Teslas doesn't negatively affect the environment as badly as Musk supporting Trump, how is actively encouraging climate change.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, so in order to save the climate, we should buy EVs made in China, a country famous for its lax environmental standards, not to even mention lack of worker rights or treatment of minorities…

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where did I say to only buy electric vehicles from China?

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Where did I accuse you of saying only?

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You accused them of saying buying from China is what we should be doing and they didn't say anything like that. You're obviously a bad faith troll.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But that’s basically what they said. They accused Elon of being in favor or tariffs because it keeps his Chinese competition at bay. Which sorta implies that buying Chinese would be the smart thing to do, regardless of ethical concerns.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Illiterate troll is illiterate. Quote me where I say we should buy Chinese electric vehicles. You're the only one that says that.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You said people would prefer to buy Chinese EVs if Trump wasn't putting tariffs on them.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Feel free to indicate where I say we should buy Chinese EVs.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bro, you're grasping for straws. You clearly implied that buying Chinese EVs was preferable to buying Teslas, but it was Trump's tariffs making that difficult.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

...you're grasping for straws.

You clearly implied that buying Chinese EVs was preferable to buying Teslas...

You clearly implied that buying...

...clearly implied...

You also clearly implied you like and support Nazis. No I won't provide a quote. But it was clearly implied.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Give me a break, you don't give a single shit about the environment.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Neither do you.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The time for worrying has passed it's time to prepare and hold on