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[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Came here to say this. I guess it could be considered violent because someone COULD get hurt...but I also feel like calling it violent to start is misleading and disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How to Blow Up a Pipeline is a great book exploring this concept. Why is destruction of private property even considered violence, and why is private property more protected than vulnerable populations? Why does the average person, not owning private property, even consider this dynamic?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I've heard of this book. It's on a long list of things to read for me. I feel like I have to have this same conversation every time there's a protest somewhere in the world where property gets damaged. That tired line of "I don't understand why these people destroy their own city." as if any of us own anything involved. It's such an annoying thing that we are brainwashed to think this way. Like yeah, it's my city, but if want to plant flowers in it, i can't. If i want to plant crops in it, I can't. If I want to decorate it, I can't. If I want to have say in how it's used and developed, I mostly can't. So who's is it again?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The word "violence" hasn't historically been specific to just people. One can get violent with a vending machine or in British English one could say "the reporters did violence to my speech", meaning they twisted the meaning of what was said. Violence is nearly a synonym for damage.

Beyond that most Media refers to Arson as violence, the fact that they're using the word with property instead of a person isn't unusual or suspicious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It is inaccurate.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Elon entering the find out stage. It is yet to be determined if his programming will allow him to actually learn the lesson.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

If this keeps up at this rate then it won't be a spike it will be a trend. You want to be trendy don't you?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

“I love my car. It’s the safest car,” Ramsdell said. “I’m not going to let somebody else judge me for the car I drive.”

It's not and you are, you've just chosen not to care.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Oh no those poor cars, such horrible violence and suffering caused to these inanimate objects

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean the craziness of how much power musk has makes me really consider that wild conspiracy about how musk hacked the election could be true.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Not a conspiracy when Trump literally says Elon helped secure states like Pennsylvania.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And just like that, worrying about climate change has become a thing of the past.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ridiculous statement, you can hate Elon and Tesla, while caring about climate change. You may not be aware there are other electric vehicles not associated with Nazis. Right now, Elon is pushing for changes that increase climate change by supporting the Trump administration. Dealing any kind of social and monetary blow to Elon and his companies would hopefully discourage him from continuing his actions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Forget climate change, have you considered the amount of toxic chemicals released into the atmosphere by burning down even one of these vehicles?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even if 1k burned unnecessarily, it's No where near as impactful to the environment as the bad decision making a country with a GDP of 27 trillion USD will be making. We passed the largest bill to deal with climate change (Inflation Reduction act) the world has ever seen and now that may all get thrown away because of Donald, financially backed and influenced by the CEO of Tesla. Not only will Donald not fight to combat climate change, his is actively encouraging it by implementing policies that encourage fossil fuel use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So in order to combat Trump’s lack of interest in reducing fossil fuel use, the solution is to destroy the most popular brand of electric cars, because the owner is of said electric car brand is helping Trump increase fossil fuel use, thus actively shooting himself in the foot.

Make it make sense.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nobody said Elon is smart.

Are you denying that Donald is encouraging fossil fuel usage and by extension worsening climate change? Are you denying that Elon chose to financially support the candidate that would worsen fossil fuel usage?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How does Elon profit from that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Quoting directly from the article:

Does it help Tesla?

It is unclear whether selling carbon credits provides much-needed relief to Tesla compared to its rivals and even slows down other projects on the timeline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay', let me ELI5:

Elon mainly makes money from selling electric vehicles, doesn't he?

Electric vehicles are sold as a climate-friendly alternative to internal combustion engines.

If Trump is vehemently anti-EV and pro-ICE, what the hell does Elon have to gain from supporting him? He's a capitalist after all, isn't he? Why would he throw away his life's work on supporting the one candidate who promises to ruin his entire business model?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Donald is pro Tesla (now) not pro EV and definitely is not against combating climate change. With many government incentives for purchasing EV's going away, Donald placing tariffs on Chinese products ( oh wow, BYD is Chinese, and sells extremely cheap EVs that people would prefer to buy over Teslas when you just look at the cost), Donald potentially putting tariffs on other electric vehicles from foreign countries (well look at that, now Tesla is one of the few non tariffed options along with other american electric cars), and with Teslas were being hawked at the white house, yeah it makes a lot of sense for Elon to support the most corruptible candidate.

Elon doesn't care about the environment, he only cares about getting his companies ahead. Kamala wouldn't give HIM special treatment, and it would be hard for him to convince her to do so. Donald just needs some money and he'll gladly talk about how "everything's computer" inside a tesla in front of the white house.

And this is really just a distraction from your main point. Destroying Teslas doesn't negatively affect the environment as badly as Musk supporting Trump, how is actively encouraging climate change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so in order to save the climate, we should buy EVs made in China, a country famous for its lax environmental standards, not to even mention lack of worker rights or treatment of minorities…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say to only buy electric vehicles from China?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Where did I accuse you of saying only?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You accused them of saying buying from China is what we should be doing and they didn't say anything like that. You're obviously a bad faith troll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But that’s basically what they said. They accused Elon of being in favor or tariffs because it keeps his Chinese competition at bay. Which sorta implies that buying Chinese would be the smart thing to do, regardless of ethical concerns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Illiterate troll is illiterate. Quote me where I say we should buy Chinese electric vehicles. You're the only one that says that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You said people would prefer to buy Chinese EVs if Trump wasn't putting tariffs on them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Feel free to indicate where I say we should buy Chinese EVs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bro, you're grasping for straws. You clearly implied that buying Chinese EVs was preferable to buying Teslas, but it was Trump's tariffs making that difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

...you're grasping for straws.

You clearly implied that buying Chinese EVs was preferable to buying Teslas...

You clearly implied that buying...

...clearly implied...

You also clearly implied you like and support Nazis. No I won't provide a quote. But it was clearly implied.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Give me a break, you don't give a single shit about the environment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Neither do you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This is the dumbest take I swear. If it's that bad to burn ONE, what do you think happens when you take the richest dude on the planet who directs slaves to extract the metals from the earth to make many more of them a year, the supply chain for which is incredibly polluting, and many of them just randomly do that themselves, requiring THOUSANDS of gallons of water to put out each time, and put him in charge of US govt's spending priorities?

Spoiler alert:

It's not good (etc.)

Forget climate change

Lol what?

And just like that, worrying about climate change has become a thing of the past.

To you, apparently. Not those of us who have our eyes and minds open and are actually trying to make positive change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

So you’re saying EVs are bad for the environment in general, or is it only when they’re produced by a particular person?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The time for worrying has passed it's time to prepare and hold on