I mean the craziness of how much power musk has makes me really consider that wild conspiracy about how musk hacked the election could be true.
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Not a conspiracy when Trump literally says Elon helped secure states like Pennsylvania.
Came here to say this. I guess it could be considered violent because someone COULD get hurt...but I also feel like calling it violent to start is misleading and disappointing.
How to Blow Up a Pipeline is a great book exploring this concept. Why is destruction of private property even considered violence, and why is private property more protected than vulnerable populations? Why does the average person, not owning private property, even consider this dynamic?
I've heard of this book. It's on a long list of things to read for me. I feel like I have to have this same conversation every time there's a protest somewhere in the world where property gets damaged. That tired line of "I don't understand why these people destroy their own city." as if any of us own anything involved. It's such an annoying thing that we are brainwashed to think this way. Like yeah, it's my city, but if want to plant flowers in it, i can't. If i want to plant crops in it, I can't. If I want to decorate it, I can't. If I want to have say in how it's used and developed, I mostly can't. So who's is it again?
The word "violence" hasn't historically been specific to just people. One can get violent with a vending machine or in British English one could say "the reporters did violence to my speech", meaning they twisted the meaning of what was said. Violence is nearly a synonym for damage.
Beyond that most Media refers to Arson as violence, the fact that they're using the word with property instead of a person isn't unusual or suspicious.
It is inaccurate.
So, I'm not suggesting anyone do this but just as an FYI if you use fire or explosives to do it, the sentencing will be much harsher.
Because Tesla gets federal funding, the federal government can charge you as though you burned down government property.
This is the statue Pam Bondi is using to go after folks.
Whoever maliciously damages or destroys, or attempts to damage or destroy, by means of fire or an explosive, any building, vehicle, or other personal or real property in whole or in part owned or possessed by, or leased to, the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or any institution or organization receiving Federal financial assistance, shall be imprisoned for not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, fined under this title, or both.
Anyway, there's quite a few things that could be fired at a distance that could do a lot of damage to the paint job. Which isn't cheap to fix, and makes the cars unsellable in the meantime.
If a person was so inclined anyway
How are unsold Teslas "government property"? Oh that's right, they aren't. Fucking fascists.
Happy cake day!
That statute is bullshit! Just because a corporation has some federal contacts doesn’t mean they need or deserve extra federal protection.
Unfortunately it will probably take a defendant with very deep pockets to hire very good lawyers to defend charges based on the statute…
Stop. Hammer time.
Elon entering the find out stage. It is yet to be determined if his programming will allow him to actually learn the lesson.
“I love my car. It’s the safest car,” Ramsdell said. “I’m not going to let somebody else judge me for the car I drive.”
It's not and you are, you've just chosen not to care.
If this keeps up at this rate then it won't be a spike it will be a trend. You want to be trendy don't you?
Oh no those poor cars, such horrible violence and suffering caused to these inanimate objects
And just like that, worrying about climate change has become a thing of the past.
ridiculous statement, you can hate Elon and Tesla, while caring about climate change. You may not be aware there are other electric vehicles not associated with Nazis. Right now, Elon is pushing for changes that increase climate change by supporting the Trump administration. Dealing any kind of social and monetary blow to Elon and his companies would hopefully discourage him from continuing his actions.
Forget climate change, have you considered the amount of toxic chemicals released into the atmosphere by burning down even one of these vehicles?
Give me a break, you don't give a single shit about the environment.
Neither do you.
Even if 1k burned unnecessarily, it's No where near as impactful to the environment as the bad decision making a country with a GDP of 27 trillion USD will be making. We passed the largest bill to deal with climate change (Inflation Reduction act) the world has ever seen and now that may all get thrown away because of Donald, financially backed and influenced by the CEO of Tesla. Not only will Donald not fight to combat climate change, his is actively encouraging it by implementing policies that encourage fossil fuel use.
So in order to combat Trump’s lack of interest in reducing fossil fuel use, the solution is to destroy the most popular brand of electric cars, because the owner is of said electric car brand is helping Trump increase fossil fuel use, thus actively shooting himself in the foot.
Make it make sense.
Nobody said Elon is smart.
Are you denying that Donald is encouraging fossil fuel usage and by extension worsening climate change? Are you denying that Elon chose to financially support the candidate that would worsen fossil fuel usage?
How does Elon profit from that?
Quoting directly from the article:
Does it help Tesla?
It is unclear whether selling carbon credits provides much-needed relief to Tesla compared to its rivals and even slows down other projects on the timeline.
What?
Okay', let me ELI5:
Elon mainly makes money from selling electric vehicles, doesn't he?
Electric vehicles are sold as a climate-friendly alternative to internal combustion engines.
If Trump is vehemently anti-EV and pro-ICE, what the hell does Elon have to gain from supporting him? He's a capitalist after all, isn't he? Why would he throw away his life's work on supporting the one candidate who promises to ruin his entire business model?
Donald is pro Tesla (now) not pro EV and definitely is not against combating climate change. With many government incentives for purchasing EV's going away, Donald placing tariffs on Chinese products ( oh wow, BYD is Chinese, and sells extremely cheap EVs that people would prefer to buy over Teslas when you just look at the cost), Donald potentially putting tariffs on other electric vehicles from foreign countries (well look at that, now Tesla is one of the few non tariffed options along with other american electric cars), and with Teslas were being hawked at the white house, yeah it makes a lot of sense for Elon to support the most corruptible candidate.
Elon doesn't care about the environment, he only cares about getting his companies ahead. Kamala wouldn't give HIM special treatment, and it would be hard for him to convince her to do so. Donald just needs some money and he'll gladly talk about how "everything's computer" inside a tesla in front of the white house.
And this is really just a distraction from your main point. Destroying Teslas doesn't negatively affect the environment as badly as Musk supporting Trump, how is actively encouraging climate change.
Okay, so in order to save the climate, we should buy EVs made in China, a country famous for its lax environmental standards, not to even mention lack of worker rights or treatment of minorities…
The time for worrying has passed it's time to prepare and hold on