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Apple is losing more than $1 billion a year on its streaming service Apple TV+, the Information reported today, citing two people familiar with the matter.

Apple has spent more than $5 billion a year on content since launching Apple TV+ in 2019 but trimmed that budget by around $500 million last year, the report said.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a loss leader. They make money selling the hardware and use AppleTV as a feature. That’s why the content is so good; it has to be to make it a compelling addition to their existing products.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would make sense if it wasn't available on every other platform.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s still good marketing. People will associate a good service, with good/great shows/movies and without all the fluff that Netflix has, with a good company.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Netflix is just as good as Apple and doesn't annoy me with ads, failed skips and subscription upsells so I don't see that working, personally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

appletv plus doesnt have ads. netflix is full of garbage, and requires 2 factor authorization like every couple weeks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

appletv plus doesnt have ads

Really? It doesn't play an ad for a different show every time you start playing a show? Its not littered with ads for MLS? Paramount? HBO?

Yes. It is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

A downvote is just as good as an upvote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but it got you to create an Apple account

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They can extract value from just the existence of your account. If they wanted to run an ad campaign to convince people to use them they can cross reference your email and any other demographic info.

Someone - maybe not you but someone like you - will buy an Apple product because of this.

Source: I used to work for a big data company

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't sound like something worth $1B

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is pocket change for Apple. They have so much money they literally don't know what to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you go around throwing your pocket change into the streets?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So since Apple is probably not just throwing money away… what other reason could they have?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Poor planning?