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Tesla dealerships are getting protested and, in some cases, vandalized. Sales are down on 9 of the top 10 countries Tesla sells in. Yet Tesla stock is up. Twitter is a cesspool of nazi-themed bots, and somehow just pulled in $1bn and raised its valuation back up to $44bn.

How is any of this possible? It seems really artificial to me, but I don't really understand business.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

to be fair what they've built is amazing, and good enough for 80-90% of the time. but it needs to be 99.9999% of the time and thats not this year. they will release something of course, and rely on remote human intervention, and many people will die. but the media wont mention it and the statistics will be buried, and when it rains or is foggy or too hot etc millions will all be stranded.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What they've achieved is irrelevant. They're never gonna achieve 99.999% with standard cameras + AI for decades. Elon can't magically manifest the safety of Lidar through hopes and prayers; yet he believes he can, so the only logical conclusion is that he's a complete fucking moron con artist, only skilled at separating people from their money.

If you don't understand this yet, print me out some examples of your best code, and email me a list of your top accomplishments from the last week!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The idea that many people will die in Tesla Autopilot accidents and the media won't mention it is laughable.

I hope that no one will die, but if they do, the media will be all over it. It's way too high profile. He might be able to bury the statistics, since those are mostly under the control of the federal government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

I agree with @[email protected] -- Tesla did some amazing things, and really paved the way for electric vehicles (especially vehicle charging infrastructure). But they went too fast and quality went down and they're trying to make up for it by Magats buying to support Trump.

the media will be all over it

Tesla is already the most deadly car brand, but why aren't the media already "all over it"? What makes you think it will be any different with autopilot? https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/tesla-highest-rate-deadly-accidents-study-1235176092/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They're behind other manufacturers in some ways: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ