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Woman strangled during overnight visit with her husband at a California prison
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The thing about a life sentence is it can be reversed.
Death can't.
You can give them compensation, at least.
If they're dead you can't make them whole.
Compensate their families or other next of kin.
I'll be honest, I believe in prison abolition. I don't really want to defend the concept of life in prison. We don't need to lock people up.
But it's clearly better than killing people.
This exact same glib argument can be used against your own complaints about life imprisonment, so I'm not even sure what you're arguing for at this point.
You're the one arguing we shouldn't imprison people for life. People in favor of life imprisonment can turn right around and say; “yeah, it would be great if we lived in a world where that wasn’t necessary, but that’s not the world we live in.”
“You should focus on reality instead of your fantasies more often.”
I was saying it's better than the death penalty, not that it's okay.
You started off arguing against life in prison.
I only said that life in prison is less bad than execution. I never said either were okay.
Create a society where there aren't incentives to do crimes and then focus on reeducation and rehabilitation for people who need help adjusting to life in a peaceful society.
We need schools and hospitals, not dungeons. In some cases people might need to be involuntarily placed into reeducation and rehabilitation, but that's far different from just locking them up as a form of punishment.
Well we could start by massively reducing the prison population. If we addressed crowding, existing prisons would be far more humane.
I'm sure there needs to be a phase-out period while we build hospitals and schools, it really wouldn't take that long if we actually marshalled all the forces of production on the project. If we built as fast as China we could replace all prisons in a year.
Well I literally said we can keep the prisons open while we build the hospitals and schools. There's no where else to put people who are a danger to themselves and others.
Also, we can definitely redefine what a "crime" even is; so many people are locked up that don't need to be.
To be clear, since you don't seem to understand what I'm saying, I'm saying that hospitals and schools replace the prisons. In a just society, antisocial behavior would be treated with rehabilitation in hospitals and reeducation in schools. Again, the hospitals and schools replace the prisons.
I'm sorry that I keep repeating myself but it seems like there's some fundamental disconnect with what I'm saying that you don't seem to be understanding. Are we communicating through translation software?
I said to keep the prisons open until we replace them. That necessarily means we aren't imprisoning people for life, because the prisons will close. We just hold them for the length of time it takes to replace the prisons with schools and hospitals.
Get it?
Also I don't know where you got the idea that I actually support life imprisonment? I only said it's better than the death penalty.
I keep repeating myself because you seem to be willfully misunderstanding me over and over.
Reeducation and rehabilitation you stupid shitbag, why is this so hard for you to understand?
Talking to you is self harm.