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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Moot, pointless, argument.

This argument accomplishes what exactly? Aside from trying to just stir the pot or create culture war drama?

It's okay for public lands to be raped and razed now? Because (like damn near all the land in the world, everywhere) was taken during war/conflict?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the original comment was about ‘we’re being stolen from’ seems pretty relevant but I get how white America doesn’t want to think about it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

that's just your little opinion

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A little opinion is appropriate in response to a small minded comment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No one asked for yours anyway.
And are you mislabeling it as 'small minded' bcs it's directly confronting your hypocrisy?
Looks like you've got a case of the projections.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No one asked for yours anyway.

And who asked for yours? Are you just special?

And are you mislabeling it as 'small minded' bcs it's directly confronting your hypocrisy?

LOL, I'm not an American.

Looks like you've got a case of the projections.

ROFLMAO I can't even, ZERO self awareness with this bloke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

imagine feeling the need to get involved when you have no skin in the game

how about you watch your people get fucked a few generations and while it’s going on this moment people are complaining about your response over their hypocrisy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

imagine feeling the need to get involved when you have no skin in the game

We all have skin in the game when the world's largest economy begins to implode due to the ignorance, apathy, and general incompetence of its citizenry.

how about you watch your people get fucked a few generations and while it’s going on this moment people are complaining about your response over their hypocrisy

I too predicate my responses on baseless assumptions about others. I'd explain how your comment doesn't apply in the slightest, but there's no use conversing with those who don't care if their responses are based on reality, simply that they sound "hard truthy". They'll just make more things up!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

We all have skin in the game when the world's largest economy begins to implode due to the ignorance, apathy, and general incompetence of its citizenry.

lmao not interested in your bullshit

I too predicate my responses on baseless assumptions about others. I'd explain how your comment doesn't apply in the slightest, but there's no use conversing with those who don't care if their responses are based on reality, simply that they sound "hard truthy". They'll just make more things up!

what a waste of text, you walked your ass into this convo being neither American nor native, if you want to fuck off just do so

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LOL nice tantrum. Did you miss your nap?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

weren’t you gonna fuck off? wasted a lot of text to then just post more nosense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lmao not interested in your bullshit

Yet you can't stop responding, despite repeatedly making an ass of yourself, like a yappy little dog. You just can't bear to not have the last word, can you? What a sad, silly person you are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

that post was about you trying to justify opening your mouth when you are neither American nor native and then using being not American to dodge criticism

if you are not American and you’re going to single out not being American then the fuck was the point? immature egotistical bullshit

We all have skin in the game when the world's largest economy begins to implode due to the ignorance, apathy, and general incompetence of its citizenry.

cause this totally the same as genocide of your people

there's no use conversing with those who don't care… blah blah blah

you literally said you we’re done then you’re still here replying nonsense with zero self reflection lmao

it’s always projection

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

🦮 Yip yip yip yip! ROFLMAO

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yep great response, like I said you don’t actually respond to any actual point, just spout more bullshit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

wait lmao this implies you are the clown

anyway you’ve had plenty of chances for an actual response

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

you went 7 deep in a comment chain to post this lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You think someone responding to the latest comment is noteworthy? How's going through life with a room temperature IQ treating you, cringelord?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you seem awful invested, totally not related to that other child at all I’m sure lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

As confusing as your comment was, it prompted me to check your post history. Thinking two people are coordinating on ripping on you for being a tard is one fat bowl of copium, but you tell yourself whatever you need to.

P.s. The other guy is trolling you, it's so obvious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh you're from the country that's clearly in the same boat.
Or the bigger boat since you plundered a lot more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

American thinks I'm British, ROFLMAO intensifies.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"They're gonna chop down national forests"

"bUt WhAT aBoUt ThE iNdIaNs???"

bruh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

more like ‘now you care? lol’

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sorry I didn't care 400 years ago. I'll try harder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How many cared when it was decided there would be an oil pipeline through the pittance they were relegated to? More land stolen, and everything around it polluted in time to add insult to injury.

Did you care then, just a few years ago?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Not near enough to actually change a damn thing though, was it?

I mean shit, the company responsible is now trying to take down Greenpeace -the entire entity- in court over the whole affair, it is that confident in how fucked the US judicial system is.

They got to choose where to hold a trial with global ramifications, and tainted the entire possible jury pool by restricting it to some poxy little oil town that would cease to exist if not for the oil industry.

How many of you turned out to protest that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

that’s better than nothing but that’s self interest and farmers were right to be worried

none of that changes anything on a national level nor changed the actual outcome so the criticism is still valid

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it’s happening to native lands in the US while we speak, the fact you are not even aware earns the ‘lol’

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Americans get real mad when confronted with their hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What country are you from, and how many people did it ship over to north america to colonize it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

We didn't export criminals.
And besides the point, it's about admitting it happened.
Which is very difficult for Americans looking at the angry reactions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

lol this thread full of privileged white Americans is whining about takes and then you drop this and it’s upvoted

double down on the hypocrisy guys

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“bUt WhAT aBoUt ThE iNdIaNs???”

bruh

The opinion of people who write like this can't be take seriously

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whataboutism.

2 wrongs don't make a right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The point is that you admit your wrongs.
As they clearly can't and get very defensive, as hypocrites do.