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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Wait sorry what? Non-USian here, bear with me.

What does "program" mean here? Why is this program necessary to file your taxes for free? Do you guys have PAY to file your taxes if you don't use/apply/qualify for that program?? Am I misunderstanding what it means to "file" taxes? It's been a while since I was this confused by a US thing.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

US tax code is (deliberately) complicated and unlike other countries, you need to manually fill out the forms with your financial data even though the government already knows it and what you owe (minus exemptions that the vast majority of citizens won't claim). This is because there is a major industry around tax preparation, and the big names (such as Intuit) have aggressively lobbied for decades to keep the process as complicated and inconvenient as possible so that people are forced to pay them to fill out their tax forms. This lobbying has also resulted in the legally mandated free filing options being buried and hard to find, with many people not even knowing they exist.

Tax prep is a huge scam with many billions of dollars behind it. Weather providers are probably going to be next in the news, since they've been trying to kill the free government-run forecasts and force people onto their paid platforms for just as long.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Okay so the "paying" is for when you use third parties to "help" you file, yes? You don't pay the government for the privilege of being able to file, yes? So what does/did this Free File thing do?

Taxes aren't easy in Germany either, I'm glad I have a husband who is level-headed enough to do them for us both because I'd always have a near mental breakdown when I tried. But it's always been obvious to me where and how to file without involving anyone I'd have to pay. Fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

IRS Direct File was just a free government-run alternative to the tax filing programs like TurboTax.

You can still do your taxes by hand without the help of any software for free, but they've killed the website that fills out the forms automatically and the manual process is significantly more complicated.

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