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[–] [email protected] 205 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Calling someone a “pastor” is a Protestant thing. You wouldn’t hear a Catholic call The Pope a pastor.

Vance, like a lot of tradcaths, is LARPing because the rituals look cool. Sorta like how Andrew Tate is a “Muslim” because he thinks it’s all about controlling women, but at the same time unabashedly drinks in public.

Like not all Catholics are obsessed with the Pope, but like I have merch of the man from my Vatican visit. I have some conservative Catholic family critical of the Pope’s more progressive views, but they would never talk like this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thanks for nothing. There are endless catholic bishops using the term pastor. See my other posts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Oh that's funny. Thanks for the correction, then!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

The first headline: “Global pastor: In word and deed, pope preached mercy, outreach”

Not “a pastor.” Emphasizing global.

That second article, the journalist is the one using the term “pastor.” It does not appear in quotes.

Third one is closest to your point, but again the wording is very difference from Vance.

"You know, I think for Francis, the image of the good Shepherd was very, very important ... to seek out the lost sheep. So I think he's going to be remembered as a pastor."

It’s kinda strange how eager some of y’all are to defend Vance from the allegation of speaking in a weird and off putting way.

Edit: Let’s try phone a friend (lapsed Catholic, invited me to services a few times for the sit kneel stand routine. The open air service I attended at the Vatican itself felt more Christlike to me, tbh)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

These people who have obviously never been Catholic are really down on the whole "Catholics use Father and Pastor interchangeably" thing lol. This is crazy. A Catholic wouldn't address their priest as "Pastor" holy shit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, it's almost always "Father."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Right that's what I'm saying, I grew up Catholic and nobody ever said "Pastor X" because that's a protestant thing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I was agreeing and did a bad job of projecting that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Oh I gotcha, sorry for the misread!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought I was taking crazy pills. I grew up Catholic and the sentence gave me such a weird creeped-out feeling.

This is cultural uncanny valley.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah exactly. Like, I'm not Christian anymore so I'm not saying it's bad to not to go church, but like, are all the people arguing about this Christmas Catholics or something??? I've never heard of a Catholic who goes to weekly mass calling their priest "Pastor" lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Average Internet forum experience—saying something true but downvoted because it was said opposition to a popular view

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Pastor as a job title is specific to some denominations but the metaphor of a pastor tending his flock is common in all denominations. The roots of all Abrahamic faiths are the Jewish peoples who were largely herders in ancient times.