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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

It becomes a problem when pro Palestinians are purely anti Israel. The destruction of Israel is routinely demanded, which would mean death and displacement for half the world’s Jews.

A truly pro Palestinian position would also be against the religious fanatics of Hamas and their disregard for the wellbeing of Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The destruction of Israel is routinely demanded, which would mean death and displacement for half the world’s Jews.

This is not true. Zero of the resistance groups, Hamas or otherwise, have ever had the goal of eradicating all Israelis. They are anti-colonialst resistance movements fighting for their humanity and sovereignty, not genocidal movements like Zionism. They exist due to Israel's unbelievably violent ethnic cleansing of local populations, which are justified and celebrated by Israelis because of the ethnosupremacy baked into Zionism.

The destruction of Israel means the end of Israel as a Settler Colonialist Ethnostate, of the Occupation, of the Apartheid, of the Genocide. It means the creation of a new State where Palestinians have equal rights to Israelis. Palestinians are not inherently primitive and antisemitic, which is the underlying sentiment baked into that idea equating the two. Zionism is an inherently Supremacist ideology and dehumanizes Palestinians in order to justify the Ethnic Cleansing and Settler Colonialism.

That entire argument is based on a false premise and is completely at odds with the history as I pointed out earlier. It ignores the reality of Partition, the nakba, sabra and shatila, the deliberate plans of ethnic cleansing and settlements, the creation of the PLO, Hamas, and other resistance groups as a reaction to the fascist violence of Zionism, the apartheid, and the details of the peace process including the Oslo Accords where Israel has wielded to continue ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism for decades.

Peace Process and Resolution

Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.

During the current war, Hamas officials have said that the group does not want to return to ruling Gaza and that it advocates for forming a government of technocrats to be agreed upon by the various Palestinian factions. That government would then prepare for elections in Gaza and the West Bank, with the intention of forming a unified government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hamas routinely calls for killing all Israelis and Jews. It’s in their charter as well.

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/senior-member-of-gazas-islamist-rulers-encourages-killing-every-jew-possible/news-story/9190675857a2fbaafceed7ec2f90ef73

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azEgBsU6Mi8

https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/hamas-official-calls-on-palestinians-abroad-to-kill-jews

Hamas are Islamist fanatics first and foremost. They don’t give a shit about the lives or wellbeing of Palestinians. Holy war for Islamic domination is their goal. Destruction of Israel and expulsion of Jews is just the first step in their ideological goal.

Hamas had a whole conference about what they would do after their victory against Israel.

15. In dealing with the Jewish settlers on Palestinian land, there must be a distinction in attitude towards [the following]: a fighter who must be killed; a [Jew] who is fleeing and can be left alone or be prosecuted for his crimes in the judicial arena; and a peaceful individual who gives himself up and can be [either] integrated or given time to leave.

Except they also want to enslave the useful Jews for a while.

16. Educated Jews and experts in the areas of medicine, engineering, technology, and civilian and military industry should be retained [in Palestine] for some time and should not be allowed to leave and take with them the knowledge and experience that they acquired while living in our land and enjoying its bounty, while we paid the price for all this in humiliation, poverty, sickness, deprivation, killing and arrests.

Hamas has nothing to do with liberation. Palestinians will never be free under Hamas rule.

https://www.memri.org/tv/hamas-their-own-words-october-7th

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid. This is alsonin the context of Israel assassinating and imprisoning more moderate leadership of Palestinians, intentionally leaving only hardliners so they can justify to the western world their ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and genocide.

Hamas 1988 Charter and Revised 2017 Charter

The 1988 Charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People nor all Israelis. Hamas wants an end to Israel as an Apartheid State, not an extermination of all Israelis. Under Ahmed Yassin in the 1990's, truces were offered in exchange for Israeli to withdrawal from Gaza and the West Bank to the 1967 borders. The 2017 Revised charter explicitly accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter.

The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state, not Genocide. The Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966 maybe, but he's not Palestinian.

History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012

Fathi Hamad's comments were indeed antisemitic and an incitement to genocide. Which he also walked back and was condemned, not supported, by Palestinians and Hamas.

Hamas had a whole conference about what they would do after their victory against Israel.

Hama's is differentiating between Zionist settlers, who are a threat, and Jewish people who want to live in peace, who of course aren't a threat. 16 is certainly not acceptable. While the sentiment for wanting reparations for the decades of destruction by Zionism's settler colonialism, apartheid, and genocide is completely understandable, that's of course the wrong way to go about it.

Nor would Hamas have the final say for what to do once the apartheid is dismantled. They've already agreed to become part of a unitary government that includes all factions that represent Palestinians.

You're also using MEMRI, which is owned and run by Israeli ex-intelligence.

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), officially the Middle East Media and Research Institute, is an American non-profit press monitoring organization co-founded by Israeli ex-intelligence officer Yigal Carmon and Israeli-American political scientist Meyrav Wurmser in 1997.

Critics describe MEMRI as a strongly pro-Israel advocacy group that, in spite of describing itself as being "independent" and "non-partisan" in nature, aims to portray the Arab world and the Muslim world in a negative light by producing and disseminating incomplete or inaccurate translations of the original versions of the media reports that it re-publishes. It has also been accused of selectively focusing on the views of Islamic extremists while de-emphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute