Hey everyone, hope you're doing well. For some time, lemmy's been struggling with donations. For all these years, the lemmy devs, like them or hate them; have been building the software that powers the entirety of the forumverse (that's what i'm calling it, fuck you) so if you have even a dollar/euro/peso/whatever to give, it would be greatly appreciated (by the lemmy devs, and all instance admins!)
Good day to y'all :D
crossposted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005
An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:
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Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.
Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.
The devs activly support calls for the deaths of all americans on ML. There needs to be a way of supporting the codebase without supporting the core devs....
Support the codebase without supporting the people who write the codebase seems impossible. Unless you want to fork it and then take the money for that.
That's piefed. Donate to piefed. Fuck Nutomic and Dessalines.
And to be clear, not because of their politics, but because of they way they treat their users. You don't get to be assholes to people and then beg them for money.
Yeah, theres a whole universe of solutions if youre actually interested in finding them....
Sure, I am open to hearing it.
ok, im just spitballing here but what if, there was like a community of devs that took donations to develop the code. but this time they dont actively support calls for genocide, or deny obvious genocides or something like that. maybe a charity could be involved...
Another example why "unlimited genocide on the first world" remains relevant
(libs not getting JDPON memes is funny AF)
As an American, death to America and all its cultists known as citizens who worship its civil religion of exceptionalism. 🫡🫡
~~How many layers of irony am I even on here.~~
Is there any source to that claim? It sounds ridiculous even by lemmygrad and hexbear standards
Here I talk about how a tankie called for my death, I called him stupid, and dessalines banned me.
https://lemmy.world/post/20389892
Perhaps I need more coffee, but I don't see where a hexbear or .ml person said that. I see the modlog where you said they said that, and then got removed/banned, but I don't see someone from Hexbear saying it.
Maybe I'm just missing something, however.
EDIT: Checked the post, you were defending an IDF soldier being happy with murder. When confronted with this, you went "how is a genocide? How is Israel the bad guy?" You clearly deserved to have your post removed.
You also went to Hexbear, violated the rules, and then complained that you were banned for the rules being enforced. You were being a troll and then claimed victim when you were called out.
You seem to be intentionally misconstruing what I said.
Youre fabricating this quote from me:
This is exactly the tactic of the tankies I was confronting whem I got banned from ml...
The screenshots of your own words seem to suggest:
Unless the link you gave is actually proof of the opposite.
The screen shot is me saying the exact opposite, im explaining how I dont support the IDF but all the tankies are lying and pretending im saying the opposite, and theyre lying about not seeing the threat. Highlight the part of your screenshot where I defend the IDF or Isreal... you cant because its not in there.
All you need to do is read the comments in the link I posted to see a screenshot of the threats, but you seem to intentionally avoid reading them...
EDIT: heres a screenshot for ya:
so your argument is, and I want to ge this clear as an outside observer is, when screenshots of what you said are brought up "I did not say that its all the evil Commies who are lieing" dispite the plain text showing that what you are saying is the one that does not proport with reality?
You showed up out of the blue to compleetly misrepresent me and have no screenshots of me defending isreal or the IDF because I never have. all you have is a screenshot from some hexbear slandering me but are unable to find the clear death threats against me. All youre doing is proving my point that tankis will show up and lie.
I am only summerizing what I got from the thread that I read. I did not produce evidence, I merely looked at what was posted. From what was posted incluiding your link it seems much more likely that you posted something pro IDF. Now if I am wrong, I am more than happy to admit that, as I have not gone through the mod log to look, however I wanted to make sure I understood your last argument correctly.
Why are you on an anarchist instance if you don't like owing to your own self and your mistakes? Why are you on an anarchist instance if you support states and their actions? Why are you on an anarchist instance when you clearly don't like anarchism?
You've been asked for evidence. Your evidence before didn't prove your case well and made you look worse. You then go "I'm not the one who denies genocide, you are!"
Heres what I said in you're screenshot:
Im accusing both of you of showing up with a preconceived misconception... You have a screenshot of a hexbear slandering me, and me saying theye wrong, but you take their word at face value, then LIE to everyone else by saying youre screenshot is of me saying I support the IDF. Why do you both have the exact same canned lie about me?
3. I posted a screenshot 20 hours ago... what more do you want from me?
just from context, I can gather that this is discussing Hila Kline of the H3 podcast, and I think it's kind of wild that anyone would still be trying to claim that her attitude about her illegal activities while serving in the IDF is anything other than pride, or at a minimum defense. "She's literally never said those words" isn't really a defense when plenty of other (far braver) ex-IDF soldiers have come forward to comment on their own regret of participating in war crimes and genocide, even if they had no knowledge of their illegality at the time. Hila herself acknowledges this as a genocide (at least, she acknowledges the administration as genocidal), so I'm not sure why else she wouldn't address that accusation if not because she feels proud of her service.
The comment you're highlighting isn't even close to supporting calls to the death of all americans, and in fact I think the sentiment it's expressing is the bare-minimum acknowledgement americans should have for their country's origin. Maybe you just find it uncomfortable being confronted by reality, but it's a factual statement to say the US is a settler-colonial state, and we are all settler-colonists. I don't see any problem with acknowledging that as a verifiable statement.
I feel like someone on an anarchist instance should be able to at least acknowledge the past and current crimes of their imperialist nation state of origin without feeling personally threatened about it.
Well, you can always do the liberal thing instead and sell Lemmy off to a billionaire parasite like Zuckerberg or Bezos. I'm sure they will always welcome another right-wing social media mouthpiece.
Take your pick.
Liberals would rather have Lemmy die than fund the services and servers, it's rather telling they want one unified opinion to be for all of Lemmy. And if the devs wanted the same thing, they're evil and trying to control the platform.
Right now dbz0 is having people brigade it because we want to have AI on our platform. They're mad we have our own rules on our own instance.
Right? Like isn't that the entire point of the Fediverse? Aren't we meant to be able to exist in little instances with values that we align with? And if people don't like it, they're free to move somewhere else, or peacefully block us and our ways?
Tell that to the .world users who wants dbzer0 gone because we don't like copyright.
.world is the worst of the large activity groups, and it is worse because they are big enough they can start to manufacture concent that everyone else is bad, and then scare people off from the other instances. They to me feel like a group of people who are only mad at reddit because reddit hurt them, but have no issue with the fraimwork that made reddit reddit, and so are creating a distilled version of reddit.
It's like how some people on Mastodon didn't make new instances to break free from the corporate social media landscape, but to maybe become the next Zuckerberg or Jack Dorsey.
It's not about a statement or philosophy, it's just to copy what worked previously without understanding why people want a federated, algorithm free system. It's "Well if they can start a system that made them rich in 2005, maybe I can in 20XX."
lemmy.world wants to be the default instance. Major players are wanting to boycott lemmy.ml and are actively cheering that it's hurting the development team. They don't even know what the service they use does or works. They just like the idea of hurting the development because 4 people were mean to them once.
They also seem to think that users from one instance going to another is bragading, except when they do it then they are just using the software as intended... and so there is no way to interact with them. Heck I have been told I am bregading a post... that is on the .ml instance
"People using the platform they signed up for is bragading."
I was told that by a .world user yesterday, who expected a public forum where they were criticizing an instance for having its own rules, to not have the instance be able to see or defend themselves.
I have to wonder if this is a new trend. Is it going to be the new Tankie or Russian bot? "Anyone who disagress with me is a downvoting brigade!
I am currently wondering at what point will .world defederate from everyone, and just be a walled guarden, while also singing the praises of a decentralized federated platform. That seems to be the way its going right now, if an instance has different rules, or someone from an instance disagrees with them they start screaming that they need to defederate and that they are all bregading trolls.
If .world defederated, lemmy would be instantly 50% less toxic. Plus I'd have to see less genocide apologia, bootlicking for politicians would would gladly have them murdered if it meant it looked good in the polls, and just general "you see, i can fix the problem by being the problem!"
Do you feel like it's been extra exhausting lately, or is it just me? I used to think hexbear was the biggest pita to deal with but they are honestly pretty chill nowadays, especially compared to LW debate lords.
I don't know how to put it into words, but I think smug insufferable liberals more annoying to deal with, than tankies who shitpost all day.
I think it helps Tankies don't really impact much on the grand scale of things. They're annoying sure, but right now on Hexbear's post about donating to Lemmy, they are actively calling out Num's transphobia. Hexbear has been... frustrating at times to deal with, but I can look at that place and not feel personally attacked more often.
lemmy.world personally shat on me and called me a liar, a useful idiot, a single issue voter, a russian bot, a psyop, or whatever else the liberals learned that weak from MSNBC, because I wanted Biden and then Harris to win. I said "Supporting this genocide is a bad look, its harmful optics to the people she wants to help. She should support trans people, show she's learned since arresting them and making them put in incorrect jail cells that got them killed." Wanting the democrats to win was considered evil and pro-Trump.
I've had comments removed and then banned from a community because I called out a liberal troll making new definitions of words to attack me. He said "You didn't vote." I proved I did, he then went "Silly bot, I never meant you when I said that word, I meant you in a different term no one else uses." I called him out, and I got banned for it. Defending the trolls gets you banned.
Not even getting into how they wanted to censor people discussing Luigi, wanted to platform flat world and other dipshit bullshit in the name of "discussion and sunlight stop ignorance", are comfortable with transphobic members being the most popular people on their platform, and so many more issues that I'd spend a while talking about.
Or that one of their memes takes memes from .ml while hating on them, and is calling for a boycott of .ml and lemmy, while using lemmy. I can agree with not liking .ml, but they actively want the dev's main ways of testing things and software that they actively used, underfunded to it stops working. Taking the compensation for labor away because they disagree with them. That's literally some of the most ignorant, childish shit I've heard.
Hexbear has called me an anarchkiddie and that's it really. Hexbear is more interesting to look at than .world. Even some .ml people I can disagree with poltically, are more put together and interesting to talk to than .world. To the point I go "Oh god, in 5 years time will I be a Stalinist because liberals irked me too much?"
I think something has changed on lemmy.world in the last few months, I think Harris' loss was a major shake up on their egos, some of which have seemingly changed their ways of how fascism can be defeated. I do however also think it made some double down.
I've seen people fully admit they blocked or banned "trolls" who were anti-genocide, and since they didn't see any more, it asserted their belief it was all Russian bots. They didn't see posts they blocked or removed or banned, so they were obviously justified. Even when those accounts are still active to this day.
Return2Ozma is probably among my favorite .world members. He's pretty cool. He called out Biden's racism bad practices at stopping Trump's second run, and doing some of what Trump wanted in the first place. Like stopping the testing of COVID. Keeping kids in cages.
And because of that, .world hates him. He said "Harris will lose if she doesn't fix this." Then banned him. He was right the entire time, and they hate him, like a dude on lemmy, which maybe 0.1% of the voting public even sees, personally cost Harris the election. Even to this day, several moderators will leave public comments of him using documented, reputable sources showing the DNC is complicit in Trump's running of America, and call it bad faith, fake news, propganda, etc. etc.
Ensign_Crab is also cool. I really dig their stuff. .world hates him. I'm shocked he's not banned because he refuses to bend the knee to Blue MAGA. I often check out his page just to see if he's posted anything neat lately, I enjoy his way of debating liberals.
Genuinely, .ml is often more tolerable. I don't get to see "well they deserved it for living in a red state" while ignoring that even people who vote blue are stuck in a red state. I don't see defending the IDF. I don't see people who think things are only bad now because Trump is in office.
I don't like the defense of China and Russia, but China and Russia don't impact me, a person in rural America. American polices being evil effects me more than China's polices being evil. China having my data is bad, but it's better than America, who will use it on me because I'm a leftist disabled queer.
This is a very long winded way of saying, Hexbear hasn't been the worst thing on db0 in my time here since I swapped instances. I like to call db0 my home here on Lemmy. It's not given me any issues, its never once rubbed me the wrong way with how the admin team has handled things. A small gripe here or there, but never a "I gotta jump ship ASAP."
God I hope I'm not too long winded on this, I swear to god this is edited. I had a bad day today.
Sorry for the short response, but that was a fantastic read and I think I'm very much simpatico with your own experience. I always admired Return2Ozma too, what a trooper! Glad to have you on the instance :)
Honestly its fine, I'm apparently in a mood lately to write long diatribes about bullshit lately. I just wish I could put this energy into writing my scripts.
I'm just thankful the admins here don't hate me. I know I can be abrasive, I know I can be wrong, but its just nice to know right now I'm not being a moronic asshole.
People are coming finally to my PoV on why I kept hexbear federated :D
Ok but also lowkey fuck america
this feels more like an endorsement for donating than an indictment.
Honestly if America was gone I think we'd be better off tbh