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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If the defence can create enough doubt that the gun was his, I doubt they have a case otherwise.

Especially considering the jury may well be quite sympathetic to him.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they can prove the search was illegal, they can throw out the backpack evidence entirely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That’s only if the judge isn’t in on it

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Tbf just because he had a gun on him doesn't mean he was the shooter. I have a gun on me, am I the shooter Greg? Plenty people have guns, and it's even legal to have a 3d printed gun, and even if he was concealed carrying without a permit, "so?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

"Of course he has a gun. This is Texas, everybody has a gun. My florist has a gun!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I presume they tested it to confirm it was the murder weapon?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kinda, yeah if the barrel and striker matches up that'll be tough to beat. That could be easily thwarted though by running a rough brush, or changing the barrel with another one, and changing the striker, and if he's worth his salt he ditched those before he even left the city. And even a match isn't necessarily 100% proof it's the gun, just like 99.999% lol.

Honestly, I do think it was him, personally. Just playing devils advocate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he was as smart as you think, the gun would have been broken apart and the individual pieces dumped in a series of rubbish bins.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tbh, just changing those two parts, boom, different gun, and those parts are cheap. Swap those two, and dump those ideally in a body of water (well ideally two bodies of water), and also don't have the manifesto with a list of possible other targets I heard he was caught with lol. Also should probably ditch the can, melt it if it's pla, or maybe smash it real good.

But his can didn't even have a booster so tbh my bet is he didn't know any of this at all.

(Edit for the FBI and my lawyers: Do not try this at home. This is a crime. I do not advocate for these things, I'm speaking purely hypothetically.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think we all need to accept Luigi isn't the criminal mastermind some of us want him to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I’m not saying they couldn’t have planted the gun and the manifesto on him. That’s always possible. But if they did, I’m assuming they would have done the ballistics tests on the gun before planting it. And why he wouldn’t have ditched it in the Hudson before getting his Egg McMuffin two states away is another question entirely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Of course he isn't. He was framed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having a 3D printed gun on you isn't something most people do though, so it's not a good look.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Depends where, in a few states they are illegal but in a good few more it's actually 100% fine as long as you don't also have drugs. Doubly so if: white. "Italian" (whether he is or not he'd pass in my area) is white enough. P80s are more common, but same concept.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Especially considering the jury may well be quite sympathetic to him.

I think people on the internet vastly overestimate how sympathetic a jury will be.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Probably, but isn't the healthcare system pretty much universally despised in the states?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but not as much as straight up murder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

manslaughter at best. Or would be in a place where laws weren't made for the wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That's not what manslaughter means.