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Resist: It's Time
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We are still in this together, but "this" is going to be real different in the very near future. This demands a different kind of "we."
The French Resistance during Nazi occupation played important roles delivering downed Allied airmen back to safety, supplying military intelligence, and acts of sabotage.
The Underground Railroad is estimated to have brought 100,000 freedom seekers to safety between 1810 and 1850.
It's time.
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Yeah, peaceful resistance will probably be handled a bit differently by the cops if everyone in the crowd has a shotgun over their shoulder. Without even brandishing or using them, just knowing that they're there changes the equation a lot. Reminds me of that part of Winter on Fire (a documentary on the 2014 Maidan protests) when the protestors have had enough and declare that they're going to march on the capitol building as armed protestors, and the president can choose to be there or not. After months of shooting and killing unarmed protestors, the cops fucking bailed immediately.
There's a reason they're using 6-12 officers to arrest one middle-aged mother. They know the communities they enter hate them and they are terrified of bystanders ganging up on them or worse, ambushing them with firearms.
I don't think there is a "peaceful show of force" in this scenario. The second a cop sees a civilian carrying a long arm walking up to them, pistols are leaving their holsters and they'll start screaming commands just like they're trained. The first shot fired is inevitable from there.
Why would you "walk up" with a long arm?
The comment I replied to appeared to suggest that if everyone together brandished firearms at the cops as a show of force, the cops would simply slink away in fear without a shot being fired or anyone being further hurt. Something I would not count on.
Yeah, I wouldn't either, sure as fuck not alone.
It really, really, really depends on numbers. You get obviously more people with long guns (not even brandishing, just having them sling over) than there are cops who firmly let them know that they should get scarce, then yeah, that's exactly what will happen. Cops have been taught to "go home at the end of the day", whatever it takes, and that typically means eight of them shooting one suspect 200 times. That math changes REAL quick when it's an armed crowd.
That's how it went down with the Bundy standoff.