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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Congrats, Austria!

So, Israel went from 15 from the jurors but 2nd overall? πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They've been coordinating votes and advertising heavily.

Here's a Finnish news source: https://yle.fi/a/74-20162154

But there's others in English on Reddit I think.

Basically coordinated right wing voting.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure that's some cheating going on as well with throwaway Sims or outright buying votes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, they're notorious for hacking, and even did a supply chain attack with beepers.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they did voip voting via VPN or such. I'd imagine a nation state hacking a song contest would be trivial by comparison.

I had this idea, but don't know how to implement it, that if a mass poll was done globally on voting, it could be used to see if any cheating occur. With the high amount of points Israel got, it wouldn't take much deviation to have evidence that the audience vote was manipulated.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, not 100% sure how it's implemented, but if you compromise a mobile app with the right permissions you could probably send the SMS from what's essentially a botnet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Voting is exlusively via SMS, the voting app also just sends an SMS and so does the website. The only country not doing televoting is San Marino, too small and relies on Italy, if you send an SMS from there it'll be probably counted as Italy. SMS is a crappy system and you can put whatever you want as sender (sometimes for codes you get an SMS not even from a number, but from a name because there's no restriction on that). You can pretend to be someone else relatively easy and the receiver has no way of checking if it's even a real number.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Happened last year too, similar number of votes, but they got fifth place because the first four got much more points than this year.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm more amazed by Estonia's high jury placement.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

His legs were obviously tuned to a frequency that hypnotised them into voting for him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Wake up babe, a new Jewish space legs conspiracy just dropped!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The only explanation!

[–] Taiatari 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah they got lots of votes for reasons beyond my personal understanding. Even without the politics involved I found many performances better than theirs.

Edit: for the protocol, I didn't like Austria either all that much. But I did like Armenia and the late machiato guy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I didn’t like Austria’s, either. But, it sure does sound like Eurovision song. I swear aliens are running the thing.