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Okay, that's definitely suicidal though. Like, is she actually expecting to get through? The Israelis are executing medics and children over there.
The amount of stuff she's been involved in she definitely has main character syndrome and fully believes this'll work out well.
I don't want it to sound like im belittling the effort. Its brave as all shit and the best cause I can think of, but still.
Pretty wildly demeaning to take someone doing something brave and putting her body on the line for people in need as "main character syndrome". What have you done lately?
I agree. Thunberg is a real hero. I feel like a coward in comparison. We owe it to the people standing up and fighting back
what they have done lately has zero effect on whether the discussed move is smart or not. that is not how stuff works.
We were not talking smart or not, the discussion was about main character syndrom/brave.
I was talking about the fact that "what have you done" is childish effort to protect yourself from an argument.
and there is thin line between brave and stupid. only the person with main character syndrom will try to shield a grenade with their body hoping the plot armor will protect them.
Some people are willing to die for others. They don't think they have plot armor, they are aware that they will probably die. It's not stupidity, it's bravery. I find it sad that people tend to belittle this kind of action.
if you expect to die and still go through with your plan, that it is the definition of stupidity. if you think you are so important that your death will move millions and finally change things, that is the main character syndrome that is being discussed.
in reality, she will get two news cycles and that will be it. nothing will be changed and she will be dead. if she really wants to do something, it is much smarter to do anything where she does not die in the process.
Why do you think you understand every person who does something like that? People are different, have different views, motivations and visions. Bravery does exist. There are people willing to risk their lives for their ideals without being selfish and proud about it. It's not always main character syndrome just because you're unable to imagine any other explanation. The world is more diverse than that.
i have not said that. also, the thinking of the people is not relevant here, the result is.
it does exist, but going on a suicide mission that is not going to change anything is not bravery. it is useless.
yes, it is. there are only two possible outcomes. either your death for the cause does not change anything, and then why would you decide to suicide in the first place?
or you think you are so important that your death will change things, and if you think that, you are just delusional. i am not trying to be asshole here, i am being realistic. if the fucking pope decided to visit there and they would accidentally bomb him to sto'vo'kor, they would say "oops, that was unfortunate" and people would mourn for a week, before things would go right back to where they were before.
Ok, I think I understand. You're thinking of it as a mission with a result that is quite sure - death. I don't think Greta thinks about it this way and even I don't think about it this way. I see it as a mission with several possible outcomes, that is very dangerous amd can result in death, but it's not the only way it can end. The fact we're talking about it here is a good result already.
This has wildly more impact than anything you're doing and what most people like you are doing (voting for more genocide)
oh no. i didn't give up to logical fallacy so now i am voting for a genocide? now that is some debate championship stuff. how was kindergarten today?
So when someone doesnt vote they're the problem, and when they do vote they're the problem?
How's the average person supposed to do anything?
Nobody said either of those
It was the part where they said (voting for more genocide) that made me think they said either of those. Sorry. I'll work on my reading comprehension I guess.
oh that was just the commenter's childish effort to counterattack and not having any real argument :D