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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Looking up how to do something, as an improved stackoverflow. Especially if it provides sources in the answer.

Boilerplate unit tests. Yes, yes, I know - use parametrized test, but it's often not practical.

Mass refactoring. This is tricky because you need to thoroughly review it, but it saves you annoying typing.

I'm sure there's more, it's far from useless. But you need to know what you want it to do and how to check if done correctly.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Boilerplate unit tests.

It will generate bad tests, so you will have lots of tests blocking your work, but won't actually test the important properties.

Mass refactoring.

That's an amount of trust in the LLM capacity to not create hidden corner cases and your capacity to review large-scale changes that... I find your complete faith disturbing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not like it ships it to production. You can read code it writes and modify it if you don't like it, or choose not to use it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

If you can read the code it writes and modify it, a project manager can remove that time from you and take the AI slop direct to production.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Another good reason to never let the company's project become your project.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a different problem. The original question was when would a competent dev use an LLM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Which the answer is: never. If they did, by definition they would not be competent (unless they are being specifically trained in how to avoid code slop).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As always, the specific situation matters. Some refactors are mostly formulaic, and AI does great at that. For example, “add/change this database field, update the form, then update the api, update the admin page, update the ui, etc.” is perfectly reasonable to send an AI off to do, and can save plenty of programmer time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Until you don't properly check the diff, a +/- or </=/>/<=/>= was reversed, and you now have an RCE in test, soon to be in prod.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

What kind of moron doesn’t check the diff? Plus, modern AI coding tools explicitly show the diff and ask you to confirm each edit directly.

I wouldn’t let a human muck about in my code unchecked, much less an AI. But that doesn’t mean it’s useless.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I very rarely find result summarizers useful. If I didn't find something normally, there won't be anything in there.

I sure love tests and huge codebases with errors in them. In the time I read and understood an LLM's output, I could write it myself. And save on time later when expanding/debugging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

When yarn/react/next.js/amplify breaks in some new and idiotic way, Claude is helpful more often than not. Why spend hours googling and sifting through github/stack overflow/etc when Claude can tell me what option to tweak to fix it in a fraction of the time?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

I am so far from trusting and LLM to do mass refactoring even with heavy review. Refactoring bugs can be super insidious.