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The someones in question, namely the wait staff, are often the biggest defenders of tipping culture in my experience. They don't WANT a higher base wage to happen. Without tipping they'd make less money and the career wouldn't be viable for adults. Boo hooo. *in their words, not mine. I guess I had to clarify.
So when it comes to asshole accusations...eh. That's your opinion. Nobody made them choose that career. You're being protectionist and I'd reject that shaming attempt if I didn't still tip a little.
I didn't seek out being a cop, a priest, a door knocking scammer either. I think tipping is gross and I'd rather be homeless than prey on people and then defend my preying on people because it pays the bills. I lived a decade impoverished. Even at my most desperate I never turned to predatory careers. It's a choice.
I tip a flat 5 bux. Not a percentage. For someone I interact with for 10 minutes I think it's reasonable. I hope they split it with the cook staff. If it's acceptable for a delivery driver who does work harder and has higher vehicle maintenance demands, then it's fine in a restaurant too.
Spoken like someone who has never been to a country where tipping culture doesn't exist. The service industry works just fine when businesses are required to pay staff a living wage instead of pushing that expense on to the customer. You level the blame at the wait staff for pushing this culture, but that's simply not the case.
I know it works and I've been overseas, you missed my point, but I see where it could be missed I'll fix that. The waiters/waitresses in North America disagree with you and are part of what holds us back. You're welcome to ask in their communities, I think you won't like what you hear, same as I did.
What straw man am I punching in this scenario?
It was too harsh I saw where you could draw the wrong impression afterwards. That's retracted now sorry.
Um... what?
You're fighting an opinion I do not share, I was repeating what I was told by wait staff multiple times.
That's not what a straw man argument is, or at least, it's not a good example of one. It was literally what you were basing your whole argument on.
It's not my argument. That's...why I retracted and said sorry. The next comment explaining how it happened, not describing the non existence of the strawman. This is getting very dumb. Let's ignore eachother.
Agreed on me ignoring you. Way ahead of you 👍
Correct.