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[–] [email protected] 87 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Zendaya was great in spiderman but she's the absolute worst choice for chani. Her "too cool for school" sarcastic persona doesn't fit with a primitive tribal religious fanatic at all.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She's a sassy, rebellious New Yorker, when Chani is mature, strong and feminine AF. Just because they're 15 doesn't mean they're supposed to be played like any Western "f u mom!" kid... Denis really dropped the ball there, but he's more of visual director than a storyteller, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She's a sassy, rebellious New Yorker

I'm pretty sure she's from California? Unless you're being metaphorical or something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Since when does Spider-Man takes place in California?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

They got confused and thought they were talking about actual Zendaya.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Since he found out he can web-sling from palm tree to palm tree.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To non US people who aren't exposed to the same celebrity overexposure (unless it's by choice) and have no particular opinion on Zendaya, she's ok. Haven't seen part 2 though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's not celebrity overexposure in my case. I like Zendaya, I'm not tired of her and would like to see her in more stuff. I just think she was the wrong actress to play chani.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It’s a relief then that Dune is one of the dumbest fucking stories of all time and casting doesn’t matter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Ō great maker, subsume this guy right here into the sands.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious what you think the greatest story ever is. I hope it's not The Bible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ironic comment, since Dune’s story is supernatural nonsense written by a misogynistic homophobe who probably does think the Bible is the greatest book of all time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd not looked into Frank before now, but I've read 2.5 of the dune books. It's weird to see he was a self described conservative and libertarian. The whole dune story seems to mock everything he stands for politically. It's like he was completely unaware of the power structures he was writing about exist across all US (and non-US) political parties.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The story glorifies a eugenically engineered monarchy and waxes poetic about the evils of homosexuality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that isn't why people like it. Like Harry potter and Wizarding world of the transphobe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You expressed surprise that Herbert is a rabid conservative. I pointed out that the book you claim to like is a celebration of fascism.

Yeah, but that isn't why people like it.

Correct. People like Dune because it’s the biggest book they’ve read, not because they were paying attention to the prose or narrative quality of its insane plot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The storyline is a fascism. Frank thought libertarianism would stop what he was writing about. He didn't want fascism but wrote about it. The second book is mostly about Paul falling apart and dying. Even though he thought he could follow a perfect path to being a perfect leader.

I personally don't care much about literary complexity. I find it interesting, and that's all that matters to me. If you disagree, that's fine too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Fair enough. I don’t begrudge your enjoyment.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It seems like you really don’t like it. What makes you say that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Although the movies are better than the books, the actual story is spectacularly awful. Have you ever had someone try to explain it to you? It’s unhinged. And the book is so poorly written from a literary perspective. Dune is Twilight for Gen-X’ers.

Frank Herbert is such a narcissist he actually accused Star Wars of ripping him off.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is just a sad take. The writing is brilliantly grounded in reality for a fantastical story. It's fricken weird AF, but many of us are here for that. It's not for everyone, and that's okay if you don't like it, but calling it poorly written is infantile.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I've noticed a lot of infantile and absurdly maximalist takes on Lemmy lately. it's kind of souring me on the project.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

People post bad takes on social media - the Lemmy project is clearly failed!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

The Reddit spillover effect is noticable

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

the Human Project? understandable, really.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

jesus christ i thought you said "marxist", that sure changes the tone of your comment

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I actually really like the story of Dune, but I kind of have to agree that the writing leaves a lot to be desired. The fact that Herbert constantly switches perspectives with no indication in the middle of chapters, or sometimes even in the middle of paragraphs, drives me up the wall. I almost couldn't finish them because of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

So, just some advice, avoid Tales of the Malazan Book of the Fallen at all costs. I'm totally okay with not being spoon fed every detail of what's happening as I read, but that's not for everyone either. I first read them when I was a teen some 30 years ago and never found it hard to keep track of anything. I was too eager to find out what was going to happen next! The whole story is flush with character nuance so I could usually grasp who was saying/thinking what once things got going

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If you think Dune is well-written, wait until you read a modern sci-fi novel. The shittiest space opera would probably blow your mind.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have. I like em too. I don't neglect what came before because there is something new.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't you mean boomers. Dune was published in 1965.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Yes, but the book also became really popular among the Gen X crowd, whose hunger for sci fi was fueled by things like Star Wars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I agree. Really dumb stuff. Certainly not watching the Villeneuve movies for the plot. Cults, royalty, magic, psychic powers, people turning into worms, guiding star travel via ESP...geez

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Isn't Chani a non-believer in the movie, at least at first?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even if she is, she was raised in the same culture as stilgar and the others

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was raised in a deeply conservative fanatically religious culture and I put out a sarcastic and "too cool for school" energy a lot of the time. What do you think counterculture is? I remember in the movie she's got a whole social circle of people who are on the same page as her.

Personally I think Zendaya plays Chani pretty well, and her character doesn't feel out of place to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

You had access to a counter culture, though. All the fremen know is other fremen and maybe the occasional harkkonen. I appreciate what you're saying, but I still feel like it doesn't seem organic in context.