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The government has "strongly condemned" chants at Glastonbury Festival from rap punk duo Bob Vylan calling for "death" to the Israeli military and broadcast live on the BBC.

Rapper Bobby Vylan led chants of "free, free Palestine" and "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]" during their set, which came just before Belfast rap trio Kneecap.

A BBC spokesperson said some of the comments were "deeply offensive", adding it had issued a warning on screen about "very strong and discriminatory language". The set will not be available to rewatch on BBC iPlayer.

Police said they were reviewing videos of comments made by Bob Vylan and Kneecap to decide whether any offences had been committed.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ah, good old New Labour, siding with the modern day Nazis committing their very own Holocaust in Gaza.

The UK is almost as fucked up as the US.

(Though, judging by the march of 600k people against the Genocide, most Brits are not, and it's the power and money elites that, as usual, can't stop themselves from loving the most violent Fascism and Fascists same as when a young princess Elizabeth was being taught by her uncle and then King how to do a Nazi salute - the whole ubermenschen vs untermenshen view of the World seems to have massive appeal amongst British elites).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Far more. Starmer is a ponce and a WEF puppet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Comparing Israel to Nazi-Germany is antisemitic and comparing the war crimes in Gaza to the Holocaust is at least Holocaust minimization.

Also criticizing people for supporting islamistic terrorists like Hamas or Hezbollah doesn't imply support for Israel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Lol I can't take you seriously. Sorry but when Israel is literally doing nazi shit you can't claim their critics are antisemitic for calling them out for doing nazi shit. Get real.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fun little tidbit to tighten your trolling knickers: The finance minister of Israel said they intend to "entirely destroy" Gaza. They are doing this by raining fire upon it, from the White Phosphorus attacks going years before October 7th, to bombing hospitals and schools, and burning aid convoys and covering the ashes with sand so they don't have to look at their crimes.

Did you know that we have a word in the English language (and most others with Greek roots) that means, literally, "to entirely destroy by fire"?

That's right, the word is fucking "Holocaust".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

True that, Israel has been brutalizing Palestinians for decades, they surpassed the teacher by far.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel is a fascist apartheid state that is currently carrying out ethnic cleansing. I think it's rather fitting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Israel is a democracy with a far-right government, not fascism. Even though the situation in the Westbank might be similar to Apartheid. Nazi-Germany executed an industrial murder of over 6 million Jews, this is not the same!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

Sorry no. You can't be an apartheid state and call yourself a democracy. That's not how words work.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Whoever told you Israel is a democracy lied to you. Israel is a democracy the way Apartheid South Africa was a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Sure, there is democracy in Israel, but it is more similar to the one that existed among whites in apartheid South Africa than it is to the democracy that currently exists in the United Kingdom or France.

UNICEF has reported more than 50,000 children have been killed or injured in Gaza. At what number do you become comfortable with the comparison? 1 million? 2 million?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

In terms of being accurate with our history, dont forget that 17 million people died in those camps, not just 6 million jewish people. In the movies its always solely jewish people being murdered. Russian citizens, soldier, catholics, gypsies, gays, disabled. we never talk about that extra 11 million dead, and each of those lives was as precious as your own life, or any other humans life. The takeaway from that should be that no genocide will ever be allowed again, of any race or any people. That obviously includes Palestinians and Muslims.

What do you think datadroplet, do you agree?

edit: and of course, datadroplet declines to comment about that. Seems like denial of genocide to me which I believe is against lemmys rules.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the millions of Poles

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Dang. Good call, yes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Israel is a democracy with a far-right government,

IOW - people actually fucking voted for this. That's even worse, since that means that the general populace shares greater culpability.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

If criticizing Israel for committing a genocide and maintaining an apartheid state is anti-Semitic then I guess you consider genocide and racism Jewish tenets

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Comparisons don't need to be 100% equivalent. Nazism was about the supremacy of the pseudo race called Aryan, zionism is about jewish supremacy

The nazis was doing mass shooting, the idf do mass shooting and mass bombing. Both the nazis and the idf are starving people. The Nazis used gas chambers, the idf is shooting at people seeking aids with the new terrorist organization claiming to be an aid organization Just because holocaust killed a lot more people doesn't mean we can't compare it with the genocide is gaza.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000

You make the antisemitism worse by using it for any criticism of Israel. The fact that you call resistance group terrorism terrorism but say nothing about Israel terrorism being a lot more brutal for 77 years show that you are not neutral

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Comparing Israel to Nazi-Germany is antisemitic

I no longer subscribe to people telling me what is and what is not antisemitic. I'll use my own brain for that, thanks.

We've seen too much abuse and restriction of language and crybullying from zionists to let that language be defined by you lot anymore. Hey did you see this one? The very word "Palestine" is itself a "genocide" against the zionists.

https://www.jns.org/the-word-palestine-is-genocide/

And heres one of Netenyahu calling IDF soldiers antisemitic who talk about their atrocities. I guess its "semitic" to keep crimes secret? Is that what you personally require to keep that "antisemitic" accusation from being thrown out?
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/06/28/netanyahu-says-its-antisemitic-for-israeli-soldiers-to-describe-their-own-atrocities/

I think the fact that you zionists wrung the holocaust for all the marketing value it was worth in order to commit your own gencocide on innocents is disgusting and wildly criminal. You belong in prison.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

If this was the 40s, that person would have def be defending the nazis

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

It's not anti-Semitic to simply state reality.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Reminder that it is Israeli right wingers themselves that have opened that door by saying that Hamas are worse than Nazis and comparing the October 7th attacks to the Holocaust.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

This is satire, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Only a rabid racist would - through claiming that anything critical said about that nation is anti-semitism - imply that a nation station state whose actions approach those of the Nazis in their depravity represents all the Jewish People.

It's hard to be more anti-semite than conflation a nation mass murdering children with the Jewish People as a whole.