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[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

Who in the alt left is talking about Stalin lol maybe some whackos online

[-] [email protected] 76 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Who, you know, MIGHT be real people but probably aren’t for the most part..

I just assume any .ml account is a propaganda bot. Because even if they are real people.. they are propaganda bots.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Lemmy is far too small to bot.
lemmy.ml is just friendly to those people, so it attracts them.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

lemmy.ml was built by those people, sometimes it feels for the express purpose of spreading their bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, how dare they build a space where they could express their views!

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's plausible.

Lemmy.ml only has ~2100 monthly active users. I would guess that likely at least half of them are randos who just joined what they thought was the default instance.

That leaves about 1000 or so (likely even less) active tankies. That's not a lot of people. I'm pretty sure you could find more than that amount of tankies in pretty much every single metropolis worldwide.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

If its only a thousand people, can we just ignore them then.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Currently, Lemmy only has 46 000 monthly active accounts in total, so 1 000 is quite a significant share of that. Especially considering that these 1000 are very vocal.

Remember, this is not Reddit or Facebook with billions of active users. Lemmy in its entirety is smaller than some phpbb forums used to be.

I mean, ~3500 of these monthly active accounts are from lemmynsfw.com alone, and these are most likely double accounts for people who have accounts on a non-nsfw instance. And in general it's quite likely the the amount of monthly active accounts is much larger than the number of actual monthly active users, considering that a significant portion of users will have more than one lemmy account and that there are some moderation bots and stuff like that around.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you're not a tankie, you shouldn't be offended by, "tankies on .ml"

That instance actively and demonstrably moderates counter-opinions to tankie rhetoric, to the point where the instance is just a field of landmines for those that don't tow the line. They are a terrible, gross farse of "leftists" and deserve all the shit they catch and more.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I was objecting to this part

I just assume any .ml account is a propaganda bot. Because even if they are real people… they are propaganda bots.

Of course there are tankies on ML, though i gotta admit I rarely see them with my filters.

Plenty of hate-filled accounts on world that I block too

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

.ml literally has news that blessed oblast of Ukraine has denazified itself completely by genociding all ukranians under the saving arm of blessed putin.

At this point you're either a piece of shit or completely new who got tricked into the alt left pipeline if you are still on ,ml. If hanging out with nazis makes you a nazis, hanging out with palette swapped nazis makes you a palette swapped nazi.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I dont get that shit in my feeds man, maybe block the subs that are giving you grief instead of lashing out at random users

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's because it doesn't exist and they're lying

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It must be so easy being right wing, you can just make up any old bullshit you like and people will believe you

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

They're robots, Morty, I don't respect them

[-] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

maybe some whackos online

Checks out.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm just kinda here, idk wth the rest of the instance is up to

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

in my experience, every tankie I came across is from .ml, not saying every .ml user is a tankie, but every tankie is a .ml user.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

From someone who has gone to more than a few political protests and rallies in Boston:

Every fucking time Socialist Alternative shows up, it’s fine until some edgelord dipshit unfurls the fucking huge Soviet flag with Stalin and Mao silk screened on it. It’s like they’re trying to alienate reasonable people as well as historically-informed people. I consider myself a staunch socialist. I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots who wrapped their regimes in “communism” banners.

Sure, some of the systems at lower levels were socialistic, but at the end of the day, it was all in service to the cult of personality in charge of the whole gig. And yes, that’s what the US has devolved into (and arguably had done so quite a while ago, just not so overtly), but that doesn’t excuse Stalin or Mao, nor does it justify being an apologist for them.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots

You could easily say the same of Washington or Eisenhower or Churchill or DeGualle.

Hell, Lincoln got got by a guy who was literally shouting "Sic Semper Tyrantus".

The thing that sets Stalin and Mao apart from the Francos and Mussolinis and Tojos and Chang Kai-Sheks and Churchills was their break from the old line aristocracy. The thing westerners hate more than anything was their overthrow of the local monarchies.

That's why you have folks weeping big crocodile tears over Anastasia and Puyi, while they whistle past the graveyard of the countless Chinese and Russian victims of Romanov/Qing Dynasty misrule.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

They also dont like sadistic mass fucking murders which is every communist regimes favorite thing.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

From that perspective, any thoughts on Ho Chi Minh?

Of all the leaders good, bad, and, ugly over the last century, he doesn't seem to be brought up as much by propaganda machines.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Oh man, a thousand times this, fucking tankies are a pain and a ball and chain on the leg of progress.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Why is it always Mao or Stalin? Can't they at least go with folks who shed the blood of fascists like Tito or Castro? They werent particularly good either but at least they were doing the best with their dealt decks. Mind you I fucking loathe elevating folks to positions of respect unless they were my ancestors or damned well earned it via death and glory.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Every fucking time Socialist Alternative shows up, it’s fine until some edgelord dipshit unfurls the fucking huge Soviet flag with Stalin and Mao silk screened on it.

I'm not super familiar with Socialist Alternative, but aren't they a Trotskyist org? What are they doing waving Stalin flags?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The only person I've encountered waving Stalin flag at a protest said they were a Maoist when I asked

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Stalin took the Russian state from an agricultural backwater to a Space Age superpower in a matter of twenty years.

If he'd started out a Virginia plantation owner instead of a Georgian bank robber, capitalists would have loved him. He'd be bigger than Churchill.

American liberals love (the whitewashed version of) FDR because they see the quasi-socialism of the mid-20th century as the morally correct path. Eastern Europeans - who came through two world wars and repeated genocides on every front - have a lot more of an appetite for Iron Fisted Dictator[Communist] after enduring generations of Iron Fisted Dictator[Monarchist]

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

But the way in which he did it was very costly. Stalin is comparable to Musk in that sense. In love with technology and factories, but too focussed on advancement no matter the human cost. Everything was about efficiency.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Stalin is comparable to Musk in that sense.

Christ. Musk is, if anything, more comparable to Henry Ford.

Billionaire car magnet with whole municipal governments in his pocket who wrecked public transit and spread antisemitism all over Europe? That's not the editor and chief at Pravda.

If you were to put Stalin anywhere in contemporary US politics, I'd say he's comparable to Shyam Sankar - the Palantir CTO who was recently granted the rank of Lt. Colonel in the US military. Or, perhaps, just straight up comparing him to Peter Thiel minus all the buggery.

In love with technology and factories, but too focussed on advancement no matter the human cost. Everything was about efficiency.

Silicon Valley has swarms of these guys. Most of them aren't constantly pissing themselves from too much Ketamine.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

If he hadn't been, would the USSR survived? That focus on technology, factories, and efficiency, no matter the cost, seems like the right approach when there's Nazis at your doorstep, conquering all of Europe and conducting mass exterminations.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Nothing says "preparing for war against the Nazis and capitalists" like murdering your entire officer corps of true believers that won the Revolution that you didn't actually fight in

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Anything's possible when you make shit up kiddo

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I probably will, reality is extremely fucked up in entirely fixable ways but there's no indication they'll be fixed in my lifetime because they're all profitable for someone, if you're not mad you're either stupid or evil

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