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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're on Windows it's hard to recommend anything else. Nvidia has DLSS supported in basically every game. For recent games there's the new transformer DLSS. Add to that ray reconstruction, superior ray tracing, and a steady stream of new features. That's the state of the art, and if you want it you gotta pay Nvidia. AMD is about 4 years behind Nvidia in terms of features. Intel is not much better. The people who really care about advancements in graphics and derive joy from that are all going to buy Nvidia because there's no competition.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

First, DLSS is supported on Linux.

Second, DLSS is kinda bullshit. The article goes into details that are fairly accurate.

Lastly, AMD is at parity with Nvidia with features. You can see my other comments, but AMD's goal isn't selling cards for gamers. Especially ones that require an entire dedicated PSU to power them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nvidia cards don’t require their own dedicated PSU, what on earth are you talking about?

Also DLSS is not “kinda bullshit”. It’s one of the single biggest innovations in the gaming industry in the last 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Low rent comment.

First: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/gamer/gaming-pcs/rtx-5090-5080-and-5070-series-gpus-everything-you-need-to-know/

Second: you apparently are unaware, so just search up the phrase, but as this article very clearly explains...it's shit. It's not innovative, interesting, or improving performance, it's a marketing scam. Games would be run better and more efficiently if you just lower the requirements. It's like saying you want food to taste better, but then they serve you a vegan version of it. AMD's version is technically more useful, but it's still a dumb trick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

First: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/gamer/gaming-pcs/rtx-5090-5080-and-5070-series-gpus-everything-you-need-to-know/

What exactly am I supposed to be looking at here? Do you think that says that the GPUs need their own PSUs? Do you think people with 50 series GPUs have 2 PSUs in their computers?

It’s not innovative, interesting, or improving performance, it’s a marketing scam. Games would be run better and more efficiently if you just lower the requirements.

DLSS isn't innovative? It's not improving performance? What on earth? Rendering a frame at a lower resolution and then using AI to upscale it to look the same or better than rendering it at full resolution isn't innovative?! Getting an extra 30fps vs native resolution isn't improving performance?! How isn't it?

You can't just "lower the requirements" lol. What you're suggesting is make the game worse so people with worse hardware can play at max settings lol. That is absolutely absurd.

Let me ask you this - do you think that every new game should still be being made for the PS2? PS3? Why or why not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Like I said...you don't know what DLSS is, or how it works. It's not using "AI", that's just marketing bullshit. Apparently it works on some people 😂

You can find tons of info on this (why I told you to search it up), but it uses rendering tables, inference sorting, and pattern recognition to quickly render scenes with other tricks that video formats have used for ages to render images at a higher resolution cheaply from the point of view of the GPU. You render a scene a dozen times once, then it regurgitates those renders from memory again if they are shown before ejected from cache on the card. It doesn't upsample, it does intelligently render anything new, and there is no additive anything. It seems you think it's magic, but it's just fast sorting memory tricks.

Why you think it makes games better is subjective, but it solely works to run games with the same details at a higher resolution. It doesn't improve rendered scenes whatsoever. It's literally the same thing as lowering your resolution and increasing texture compression (same affect on cached rendered scenes), since you bring it up. The effect on the user being a higher FPS at a higher resolution which you could achieve by just lowering your resolution. It absolutely does not make a game playable while otherwise unplayable by adding details and texture definition, as you seem to be claiming.

Go read up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It actually doesn't do what you said anymore, not since an update in like 2020 or something. It's an AI model now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The docs I linked to LITERALLY explain what it is, how it works, and the mechanics behind it. Not until DLSS 4 released earlier this year do the docs mention any kind of way to employ the use of of models to anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I 100% know what DLSS is, though by the sounds of it you don't. It is "AI" as much as any other thing is "AI". It uses models to "learn" what it needs to reconstruct and how to reconstruct it.

What do you think DLSS is?

You render a scene a dozen times once, then it regurgitates those renders from memory again if they are shown before ejected from cache on the card. It doesn’t upsample, it does intelligently render anything new, and there is no additive anything. It seems you think it’s magic, but it’s just fast sorting memory tricks.

This is blatantly and monumentally wrong lol. You think it's literally rendering a dozen frames and then just picking the best one to show you out of them? Wow. Just wow lol.

It absolutely does not make a game playable while otherwise unplayable by adding details and texture definition, as you seem to be claiming.

That's not what I claimed though. Where did I claim that?

What it does is allow you to run a game at higher settings than you could usually at a given framerate, with little to no loss of image quality. Where you could previously only run a game at 20fps at 1080p Ultra settings, you can now run it at 30fps at "1080p" Ultra, whereas to hit 30fps otherwise you might have to drop everything to Low settings.

Go read up.

Ditto.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I 100% know what DLSS is, though by the sounds of it you don't. It is "AI" as much as any other thing is "AI". It uses models to "learn" what it needs to reconstruct and how to reconstruct it.

No, you don't. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Learning_Super_Sampling

This is blatantly and monumentally wrong lol. You think it's literally rendering a dozen frames and then just picking the best one to show you out of them? Wow. Just wow lol.

Literally in the docs: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/main/doc/DLSS_Programming_Guide_Release.pdf

What it does is allow you to run a game at higher settings than you could usually at a given framerate, with little to no loss of image quality. Where you could previously only run a game at 20fps at 1080p Ultra settings, you can now run it at 30fps at "1080p" Ultra, whereas to hit 30fps otherwise you might have to drop everything to Low settings.

No it doesn't. It allows you to run a game at a higher resolution for no reason at all, instead of dropping to a lower resolution that your card can handle natively. That's it.

Keep claiming otherwise, and you're just literally denying reality and the Nvidia link to the docs right in front of you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Linking to an 81 page document isn’t helpful. What specifically in there are you referring to?

No it doesn’t. It allows you to run a game at a higher resolution for no reason at all

Other than the reasons like I said - running it at higher settings while maintaining a playable framerate. The point is you don’t have to lower settings as much with DLSS.

You fundamentally don’t understand what it is and what it allows you to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You didn't read up on it huh?

Hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I know what DLSS is, I want to know exactly what you think in there says what you think it does.

So are you going to actually substantiate your claims with evidence/proof or no?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't you mean NVidia's goal isn't selling cards for gamers?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

No. AMD. See my other comments in this thread. Though they are in every major gaming console, the bulk of AMD sales are aimed at the datacenter.