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There's a ton of Russian propaganda on Lemmy today.
This post is a basic history lesson, but if you want, we can get into the history of US support for fascism in Ukraine and how that connects with its role in WWII π
Listen, I wouldnt jerk myself to ANY authoritarian government pieces of shit like you're doing here, which has yes included Russia and their oligarchs. I read Navalny's last book, did you?* How about that for a fucking history lesson. Do you know what the Holodomor was? Do you know why we have so much Russia diaspora? Do you know what Russian women say about wars in Russia? The wealthy of Russia have done FUCK ALL to protect anyone, LEAST OF ALL THEIR AVERAGE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DEFENDED US IN WW2, except put their citizens into a fucking meat grinder in wars, put them into prisons to torture and rape them and kill them to sell as videos online so they can blackmail the people who buy them, and literally stolen their money.
The Russian people are not their government. The Israeli peolle are not their government. The Chinese people are not their government. You misattribute to authoritarians characteristics of the average citizen - you're stealing their accomplishments for the wealthy. Stick your history lesson up your ass
-*Note how I never said Navalny was a good person in every position - but he is a great example of Russia's authoritarian government seizing Putin's political rival and torturing him for over a year. His last book is wild to read because it is from his PoV while he is in prison being tortured. I respect his capacity to spite fascist governments in control of his country (it's notable that he wasn't in control).
Meanwhile, Putin has directly funded Nazis and Nazi propaganda worldwide so he can start wars in those countries to "stop the Nazis" to put his men in another meat grinder
Hahahahahaha Navalny's book you love Hitlerslop https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches
Google holodomor huh? Lmao. Homework for you. https://annas-archive.se/md5/9f9f3ebb076a7ed2d91f51d0e5440f20 https://annas-archive.se/md5/dbf40cb981d075d2ecfd00af5dad05d4 If you flat out refuse to engage criticisms of the historical works you were presented with then don't pretend to understand the subject enough to be analytical.
You have to engage with my actual points first, so far you haven't done so. Providing material isn't an argument or refutation.
Oh you're playing interrogator are you? Did you even bother to click on the video of Navalny talking about massacring immigrants?
Sorry, it's still your turn to fully address my points. I'll respond when you give me a good faith argument that addresses my points, as I did for you.
You've appointed yourself the Wikipedia interrogator of the network have you? It's identical to interacting with a Zionist. There are no "turns" here, you aren't playing a game, you're clinging to lies and plugging your ears because you're a fool.
Thank you for doubling down on ignoring Navalny's fascism. Makes the message perfectly clear
Lots of projection and bad faith arguments there from someone who canβt form a valid rebuttal lol. What a tantrum. Good faith arguments, fallacies, and logic are what we build legal systems and reasoning on, because it is what is sensical and provable and arguable. I canβt argue something nonsensical and nonarguable by definition (which is why people arguing in bad faith use them - to be manipulative). Thus, you lose because you arenβt arguing, youβre just spewing ego everywhere.
https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches
The last book you read was by a guy who wants to gun immigrants down, your comments on this? Is this the kind of thinking you admire?
Gee, more fallacies and strawmen
https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches
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You immediately forfeit any human rights debate by openly claiming this man lol
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Yeah you can dramatically yawn but the fact is you'd be writing pages of smug liberal bullshit instead of smugly pulling faces, silently defending Hitlerian Eastern European politicians if you could. It's easy enough to see how you use this app. You've got nothing
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Fresh out of page-long diatribes sourcing the Kyiv Independent and NPR.org I see. What a pity
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https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches
The last book you read was by a guy who wants to gun immigrants down, your comments on this? Is this the kind of thinking you admire?
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Spoken like a true pedophile.
https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches
And? Everyone in russian politics is an evil piece of shit and has been for a century now.
Evidence? "Cia told me to believe this" is not evidence btw
https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches
How does that play into russia being neo nazi conservatory and where neo nazis are state sponsored and protected?
How does that play into what your mother and I did last night for only $20?
Okay youre just yet another holocaust denier nazi.
Which country lost the most citizens to the Holocaust?
Mostly from tankies on .ml (used to be hexbear too until they were defederated). Any self-respecting instance needs to defederate from this trash uninformed low effort propaganda.
Imagine being so bad at arguing with people that you start commenting 500 times a month complaining about a website instead of backing up your own claims. π
Well, NPR's Planet Money did an episode on this, the link: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/23/1253043749/pig-butchering-scam-crypto-tether
But basically, they are likely slaves and not even spies (spies are too expensive for this grunt work). There are huge slave networks, especially in BRICS countries including Russia, where they just run political scams, crypto scams, whatever. The NPR story focused on a romance crypto scam and he said he went through several people pretending to be the same woman, and some would admit to being slaves. In my experience talking with obvious bots is that if you ask them:
"Are you a slave? NPR says bots like you are slaves. Are you a slave? Do you need help?" I will get no response, or blocked and THEIR comments deleted so no one can see what I wrote. Normally if you ask them if they are a bot, not a slave, they will keep engaging for the content etc. It's genuinely shocking how many u-turn and disengage when you ask them that. Ofc I always ask publicly to let others know, so they are not able to confess safely if they are a slave (they can DM ofc).
Notably, Elon himself funded a scam pretending to be Democrats to funnel people to a MAGA website
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10/pro-trump-dark-money-network-tied-to-elon-musk-behind-fake-pro-harris-campaign-scheme/