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Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales (lemmynsfw.com)
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[–] [email protected] 87 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Game Pass is the same scam as Netflix was back then, and I'm not falling for it twice.

Netflix used to be too good to be true as well. 10€ a month for literally everything ! Now they don't even make blu-rays anymore and you spend more time looking up which service has the thing you want to watch than watching it, so people are pirating again.

I'll stick to physical games and GOG as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Can confirm, I never stopped pirating for 20+ years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

May as well enjoy it while it lasts. Like Moviepass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (4 children)

you spend more time looking up which service has the thing you want to watch

justwatch is pretty reliable and can save you tens of hours on your search apparently

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That may be true, but that wasn't the point he tried to make. The problem is that netflix used to have everything at a good monthly price and once they dominated the market, enshittification and price hike started, plus all the other companies wanted in on the action, starting their own service.

Now MS is trying to do the same to the PC gaming market.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Not to defend Netflix, but it did seem to me like the degradation and price hikes were a result of the other companies cutting in. I have no particular love for Netflix, but I didn’t perceive it to be like that until after external threat. Maybe I’m wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

It's also worth noting it came out in 2017. In the years leading up to that namely around 2014 everyone was questioning if Sony was going to have to declare bankruptcy. Throwing a large amount of money into a product that can draw users to your console/platforms for a cheap price that your main competitor couldn't afford to do probably sounded like a good strategy at the time, knowing they could drive costs up if they got the user base built.

Sony may have recovered though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

So does sailing the high seas

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Justwatch reliably tells me "this isn't available for streaming in your region". Sonarr tells me it's an AMZN Webrip and I can Just Watch™

Edit: But like, no shade on Justwatch, it works as intended. It's the streaming services who get worldwide licensing rights and then don't bother targeting my little region.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sadly justwatch doesn’t work for me. It gives the choice between a part of the country that doesn’t offer services where I live, or another country - which doesn’t offer services where I live.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I worked at BlockBuster back when Netflix came out. It was legit a great contender, and an awesome service. BB had their own mail service, but it was just seen as a copycat. Also the franchise had a LOT of bad blood, and sometimes rightfully so. Depended on local management how much leeway you could have. The most lax stores that were lenient did the best.

The reason it worked was because physical media is protected by the first sale doctrine. So if you could buy a disc, it could be under one roof as rentable inventory.

Streaming and licenses is what fragmented everything and greed gave the appropriate incentive.

It also somewhat killed direct competition. When everything was physical on a shelf in front of you, all for the same price, you had direct comparison and competition. You could have any show or movie from any studio all side by side. That $2-5 could get you anything, across the board.

I saw this all coming from miles away. I don't blame anyone, every step sounded like a great deal. I see a lot of the same things with Gamepass. It's a great deal, and I don't blame anyone for using it... But I don't see it as being a long term net positive for the industry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Netflix used to be too good to be true as well.

So was Moviepass, but while they were operating it was a great deal for the consumer. I wasn't going to sit that out just because I could see that they were gonna run out of money eventually.

The proper consumer response to these types of models (get them hooked with a great value proposition and then try to squeeze them once they're in) is just to leave when things get bad. Subscribing to Netflix in 2013 doesn't mean that I had to keep subscribing through 2023. I could get the benefit of a 2014 subscription and reevaluate each year whether it was worth continuing.