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San Francisco’s new speed cameras caught nearly 100K violators in May (www.sfchronicle.com)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"Nowhere was it more apparent than on Geneva Avenue between Prague Street and Brookdale Avenue, where one camera averaged 1,779 violations a day, according to the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency. Another camera on Bryant Street, between Second and Third streets, zapped 944 speeding drivers a day."

Nearly TWO THOUSAND speeding violations in one day, in the heart of a major city. These people drive like morons.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is true. But practically (And generally) speaking: Redesigning a poor road makes cars go slower. Putting up a speed camera on a poor road does not. I get the desire to bring reckless drivers justice. But if the goal is to create safe streets for users, which option is closer to true justice?

That said it should be noted that safe streets are three-pillared: Infrastructure, Education, Enforcement. You generally can't do it with just one, and even an infrastructure-focused solution would be best to also lean on at least one of the other two, ideally all three.