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I've seen this type of comment quite a lot here, and regardless of if you meant it that way I think it needs to be said for the benefit of all:
Bad road design does not excuse speeding.
Yes, changing the design is the more effective way to reduce the speed of traffic to a safe level. But just because the design was bad does not mean drivers can drive whatever feels right to them. The drivers still have a personal responsibility to drive safely, which in most cases means the same speed as the other vehicles, which means the speed limit bc that's the only one everyone can agree on.
If the road design tempts you to sin, cut off your engine.
This is true. But practically (And generally) speaking: Redesigning a poor road makes cars go slower. Putting up a speed camera on a poor road does not. I get the desire to bring reckless drivers justice. But if the goal is to create safe streets for users, which option is closer to true justice?
That said it should be noted that safe streets are three-pillared: Infrastructure, Education, Enforcement. You generally can't do it with just one, and even an infrastructure-focused solution would be best to also lean on at least one of the other two, ideally all three.
It seems to me like you're struggling to empathise with people that speed 😂( which if you don't drive is completely fair 😂)
But yeah I agree it's not a good excuse for speeding, just trying to say that putting a sign up is not very effective. It's better than nothing though and a good first step.
But adding speed cameras, while it might help a bit to reduce speeds, it's not very effective, and a much better solution would be removing the root cause of the problem: car centric infrastructure.
Speed cameras don't prevent people from speeding, they just punish people after the fact, whereas better designed roads prevent it from even happening in the first place.