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MeanwhileOnGrad
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Can you tell me where I mentioned Flatworm/Unruffled in this thread? https://lemmy.world/post/32430859
Did I mention the others from dbzer0, other than the offending user the thread is about, that came in to talk shit about me?
Did I mention Flatworm/Unruffled or Eugene here where they spouted lies and started shit? https://lemmy.world/post/33338615/18389370
Was I really being so rude and mean by saying "That has not been my experience at all" that made it okay for them to treat me like that?
Why are you defending these people for being such assholes?
You were complaining about vote manipulation, Unruffled commented saying they had banned the alts used for vote manipulation.
"complaining" is such a shitty way to describe warning and bringing attention to what is not only explicitly against the ToS of lemmy.world, but widely regarded as a shitty thing to do. Are you intentionally describing it in this way to frame me in a shitty way? I suspect so. Not to mention I was also mentioning their harassment of other users, and then myself when I called out their harassment.
Additionally, Unruffled didn't simply comment "saying they had banned the alts used for vote manipulation", they framed it as it was expected that I would or should have known that and intentionally left that information out. I don't even understand why that information matters to lemmy.world to take action. Why did they event need to make that comment at all and why did they need to phrase that so antagonisticly?
You also didn't even acknowledge the last half of their comment:
What the actual fuck is this shit? What does any of this unhinged attacking have to do with the subject at all? None of this makes any sense. How in any world is that person's behavior have any connection to anything I've done? Why is any of this acceptable from anyone, let alone a fucking admin? How could you or anyone even remotely support this insanity?
Even most important now, why did you completely ignore any of this when you made this comment? You have a facade of being reasonable, but there is no excuse for supporting Unruffled or even bothering to try to explain or excuse them for this nonsense.
If anyone thinks there is any valid reason for that comment, then there was never anything that anyone could say to convince them otherwise.
They probably refer to this post, where you screenshotted one of their comments with a link to it
https://lemmy.world/post/29116020
Also, have you reported that comment to the [email protected] mods? If no, you should, if you have but they haven't acted upon it, than it's between you and the LW mods.
Again, how does that have anything to do with the main post or the and why is any of that excusable? Some random asshole came in with their own nonsense that had nothing to do with the main post, which is what I even said in the comment that Unruffled replied to where they just continued on those entirely off-topic antagonistic accusations.
I won't even bother diving into that thread that you are all using as justification to harass and antagonize me here and around Lemmy, or that it shows there are clearly people who agree with me there. Because, I'll say this again, it has nothing to do with the report and warning of a user that has been banned for the behavior I point out there.
I am utterly baffled that you are even willing to find some way to create a narrative where that is acceptable.
Right now, here in this thread, this is between me and you, and any other shitty person joining into this comment thread to support their needless attacking and harassment.
???
You're literally here in this thread trying to excuse Unruffled's comment there, as well as their continued harassment elsewhere. What the fuck do the LW mods have to do with you supporting them?
You mentioned that thread in an earlier comment.
The recommended way to deal with this kind of situations is to get the comment removed by the mod of the community.
I was responding to this comment you made and outlining that your point was completely off the mark, since I did not mention them.
Did you really not get that? Either you whooshed yourself really hard or you're just also antagonizing me while pretending to be serious. I suspect it's the latter.
Honestly, at this point, you just need to leave me alone, too. No decent or reasonable person would support those dbzer0 anus warts, so you're most likely just trying to antagonize.
You mentioned their instance.
If I go around saying an instance is the opposite of chill and understanding, I expect the admins and mods of that instance to reply to me.
What the fuck are you talking about? Show me where I mentioned dbzer0 in that thread at all.
I was talking about
https://lemmy.world/post/33338615/18389370
If we are talking about https://lemmy.world/post/32430859/18040819 , you reported a dbzer0 user, so it's expected that the reported user's admin would jump in.
Of course we're talking about that. You fucking brought it up.
That gives them justification to start shit about something completely off topic? Even if they had any good point, that is not the time or place.
Let's stop playing this stupid fucking game. Do you or do you not think Unruffled is in the wrong with their behavior?
If you think they are wrong, I am utterly baffled why you're still keeping this going. Otherwise, you need to fuck off.
You and dbzer0 staff had a disagreement about AI in the past: https://lemmy.world/post/29116020/16853508
You report a user doing vote manipulation.
The reported user links to a comment you made in the Fuck_AI community:
Seems on topic to bring that issue up.
Again, if you think it violates the rules of the LW support community, you should report it to the mods so that they take action.
I disagreed about AI, sure. Disagreements happen, not a big deal. The real issue was the fact they were assholes to me about it and making insane claims.
No, not even remotely! What the fuck? That user was digging through people's history to find anything they can try to use to harass them with and resorting to straight up lies to do so. I mentioned that in the fucking post. They even posted a completely unrelated porn image in that community that explicitly forbids it. How in the fuck is any of that justification to start shit?
Holy fucking shit dbzer0 people are absolutely batshit insane.
At this point it's a you vs them question, and interpretation of what happened.
Unless you get another external perspective on it (e.g. LW mods), it's probably going to stay like this.
You're fucking insane if you even slightly think their behavior is okay. It's not a "two sides" situation in any stretch of the imagination. Just leave me alone.
both of you can drop it now. You're both spamming up the report queue.
@[email protected]
Noted
Maybe we're not defending we're seeing someone be angry and upset for no reason and asking them to calm down.