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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It does not help that many new vehicles are built like shit and have complexity for the sake of complexity. Electronic door latches, pop-out door handles, having everything controlled via a clunky, outdated, atrocious GUI, etc etc. These problems are not unique to EV's but a lot of EV's are going to have them just because they are brand new vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I bet if they made an EV without all that crap it would be crazy reliable.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm sad that the rise of EV's coincides with just how extra cars have become in recent years. If you sold me a mid 90s Honda Civic hatchback with an electric drivetrain, no internet connectivity, no electric door handles or touch screens, I'd be happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

One of my retirement dreams is to build electric remakes of classic cars, complete with authentic exhaust noises

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ford has that crate electric motor that can live in front of a manual transmission

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

oh man that would be sick! I hope you achieve your dreams.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If you make the exhaust noises a menu option I can turn off or on, I will buy one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, you will get a basic, simple switch. No menus. No touchscreens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Make it a toggle switch under a cool red cover and I'm in

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yes. I change my request to this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Make it a three position switch. On, off, and "make the noises with your mouth"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I want mine to sound like the cars from the Jetsons sometimes, and other times the sound of Snoop Dogg making car noises and giggling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I so want to EV-ify my Honda Element. I've never met a vehicle that had it's same compact/utility/ease of use combination, and Honda ain't even making them no more...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have a 1980's 4x4 that needs an engine, and I am so very tempted to make it electric. It's as bare bones as a vehicle gets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would be a fun project for sure. If you've got the funds, the time, and the space, I'd say go for it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The bigger problem is, it's small and light that I'm not sure it could hold the batteries.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One thing that I always thought as crazy was the amount of electric and electronic shit these modern EVs have. Bitch, weren't you supposed to save battery for driving? Why are you putting a light show when I'm supposed to be focused on the road?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Eh, something like that probably draws about half a kilowatt, and it would be hard to shed all of that functionality (I think the Mitsubishi i-Miev might, but also reverse cameras are a requirement in cars now so you can't get rid of the screen)

For comparison, my car has about a 65kwh battery. I probably use maybe 20kilowatts when driving, but there are lots of variables there. If my half-kilowatt estimate is reasonably accurate, you can run it alone for about 130 hours.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

They should be. They're orders of magnitude less complex than ICE vehicles as far the driverrain is concerned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not to mention much more affordable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's fucking dumb having all this shit added that I don't want and I have to pay for it.

We need a new manufacturer for the common man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Could you imagine taking an old school Square body and making lighter with the very basic modern amenities like power windows and MAYBE a basic touch screen radio. I know aerodynamics and safety are why they aren't around but find a way to make it work and that stuff would sell to some of the more stubborn people. Like you said strip all the nonsense out and make it basic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

An EV with crank windows, a parking break lever for mad j turns, and a standard double din radio so I can upgrade it like it's the 9ps again.

Sign me up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No. Same interior but with an electric motor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Imagine. No software, just a potentiometer regulating how much current goes into the engines.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The pop-put door handles thing gets me. Like why do I need to push one end of the handle in, then pull it the rest of the way out on the opposite end? It's so backwards and convoluted.

Just give me a damn handle I pull out to open the damn door. Why is it so hard?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Flush door handles improve aerodynamics by reducing drag.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's true, but also dumb at the same time.

The benefit of reduced drag applies regardless of mode of propulsion.

So really, it's complexity for complexity sake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

not really, because gas engines are so inefficient outside of their ideal RPM range that a little extra drag is barely noticeable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Hence why they have transmissions that ensure they're in a favourable RPM range at all times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I bet they add all that dumb shit so it breaks and you have to buy a new car after all the bells and whistles are busted and you cant open your doors or trunk, since the motor is so much more reliable and needs less maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah. I like a nice big touchscreen for infotainment and navigation, but everything else should still be knobs, buttons, and sliders on the dashboard.